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    Another flea market today. Picked up five pounds, ten ounces for $31 or about $5.54 a pound. All unremarkable common stuff so except for one finger looped candle holder with a glass chimney going into the "emergency supplies" most of it will go into the melter. One piece was marked "made in Bolivia". Some of the hallmarks are so small I had to get my daughters to read them as even with wearing my glasses I couldn't make them out.

    There was one other piece that I will save. It's a chunky little thing. Weighs seven ounces by itself. Holds about a double shot. I'll put it up with the shot glasses in case I ever feel like drinking tequila or mescal neat!

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    Was recently given a large party platter.
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    Holland Boone
    Polished Pewter
    Never Tarnish * Lead Free
    Made in Mexico
    Anyone out there familar with this company. Is it real pewter?
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    Generally food service items that are heavy and malleable will not contain zinc because it is toxic. They may be silver plated and contain some copper but will be mostly tin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick B View Post
    Was recently given a large party platter.
    Marked
    Holland Boone
    Polished Pewter
    Never Tarnish * Lead Free
    Made in Mexico
    Anyone out there familar with this company. Is it real pewter?
    Rick
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    This is a large tankard that I found this past weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic_Charlie View Post
    Generally food service items that are heavy and malleable will not contain zinc because it is toxic. They may be silver plated and contain some copper but will be mostly tin.
    They sell cold remedy tablets made of zinc. It is not too toxic.

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    Holland Boone polished pewter is all over the net if you search on it.

    Does it have some heft to it? Will it bend at all? Generally speaking the faux-pewter I've found doesn't have much weight for its size and is too stiff to warp or bend.

    Edited to add:

    We seem to have discussed this very brand before some years ago:

    https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...=1#post2506619

    Aluminum.
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    Thanks for the replies. The link from 2013 thread, was very helpful. Holland Boone pewter is just polished aluminum.

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    Hit a major score in Hot Springs, Ark. while on vacation. Does anyone know the alloy of a two-piece pewter duck with brass accents? Dull gray in color, and bends quite easily.
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    Had a couple of those ugly ducks. Melted right down, no problems.

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    I seem to remember I had some tested a LONG time ago. It was close to ley pewter in composition. Like 15-40% lead.

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    I use pewter like it is tin. Not for hardness but for mold fill out. Have enough wheel weight ingots and pure to make me lots of 10 bhn boolits which seems to work very well in my revolvers. Also have lino type for #2 alloy rifle boolits. When I run out of ww I will probably just order some super hard alloy from Roto Metals. Think I have about 30# of pewter ingots which will last me to the end.

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    Thanks. Found a couple of tankards/beer mugs with "Selwin Pewter" on the bottom; just couldn't bring myself to melt them down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodman14 View Post
    Hit a major score in Hot Springs, Ark. while on vacation. Does anyone know the alloy of a two-piece pewter duck with brass accents? Dull gray in color, and bends quite easily.
    The one I found was marked "made in China" I suspect it was not lead free.
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    All the pewter items I've collected over the past few years that I could identify as being from mainland China or Hong Kong I melted together and had analyzed. There was much more lead than tin. Since this was a mixed lot, including decorative items like those ducks, it's possible that some were more like western pewter in content, but the reason I segregated them is that I'd used a home lead test on a couple that came back strongly positive, and all the items wee similar in color (dull gray), weight (very heavy for size), and softness (more easily marked than European pewter).

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    So i just went to a Second hand store and scored some pieces. One is a holder for 3 beer mugs stamped 95% Pewter. The second item i'm assuming is pewter as it's malleable, has some neat markings, if someone can assist in determining. 3rd piece is a plate with and angel stamped on the bottom. quick google search came up with markings from this site, so i know that's pewter. The last item is a tea light older with children theme on it. No markings but sides are malleable. All together these 4 items cost me a whopping $26 and they likely weight 10-15lbs.

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    Item 2 looks like a piece with reproduction or fake marks intended to deceive. They appear similar to early marks, but I didn’t find any actual matches.

    Just an opinion, worth what you paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    Item 2 looks like a piece with reproduction or fake marks intended to deceive. They appear similar to early marks, but I didn’t find any actual matches.

    Just an opinion, worth what you paid.
    Would it still be pewter? What else could be so malleable?


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    It’s probably pewter, however the world is full of alloys. Lead is that malleable. 50/50 solder is too. Probably thousands of others that are widely and not so widely known.

    If it were mine, I would do the best research I could to ensure that it was not some 19th century artifact (it looks way too pristine to be old) then I would put a small piece into known pewter held at liquidus to see if it alloyed right in. If it did I’d be satisfied and call it pewter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    It’s probably pewter, however the world is full of alloys. Lead is that malleable. 50/50 solder is too. Probably thousands of others that are widely and not so widely known.

    If it were mine, I would do the best research I could to ensure that it was not some 19th century artifact (it looks way too pristine to be old) then I would put a small piece into known pewter held at liquidus to see if it alloyed right in. If it did I’d be satisfied and call it pewter.
    So i did some more intensive research. Item 2 appears to be made by FOCA OOSTERBEEK circa 1948. Not sure if it has any value, last thing i want it to melt it down to find out it's worth more then $8 i paid lol. More research needed i guess

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