312-314 pistol bullet 6 cavity ?

[Rrusse11]

Well, you all know I have 32-itis, so lets see a final drawing and I'll probably go for 2. My thought woould be an exact replica of the 311316 GC or PB maybe scaled up to around 120-125 gr. This would be perfect for rifles. A .314 or.315 Soup Can would also work.

Brett,
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think the Lee C309-113-F IS the Lyman 311316GC. I know my 6cav drops 'em around .313.
Cheers,
R*2

[Willbird]

http://www.rcbs.com/default.asp?menu...2=9&s3=83&pg=2

32-90-CM
82303

That bullet is nice looking too

Bill

[45 2.1]

Cb 32

[Willbird]

I still like it


Bill

[Rrusse11]

Nice boolit,,,,,,,lol, though ya know what I want on the tail end, {;o).
I don't mind the added expense of $.015/boolit, and it don't take long to push 'em thru one of the Lee dies.
Cheers gents, all good stuff BTW!
R*2

[James Wisner]

I am in for this copy of the lyman 3118.

Like Willbird I have an Smith in 32 H&R as well as an Ruger single six.
I think this would be the best all around, as you do not need a gas check on a bullet going this speed. Just have it cast .314 dia in wheel weights and water quench them.

45 2.1, great drawing.
What is the nose dia of the older 3118 that you have talked about that shot the best vs the newer ones that are smaller?.

Willbird when are you going to start to take orders???

Jim Wisner
Custom Metalsmith

[Bodydoc447]

My preference would be for a gas checked version, too. BUT I am in for a plain-based mold if that is the consensus.

Doc

[Willbird]

Well lets have a consensus.......should we do a poll and decide what kind of bullet or what ??



Bill

[45 2.1]

I am in for this copy of the lyman 3118.
45 2.1, great drawing.
What is the nose dia of the older 3118 that you have talked about that shot the best vs the newer ones that are smaller?.
Jim Wisner
Custom Metalsmith

Jim-
None of the versions I have are parallel nose jobs that are measureable. Most have a simple 1 radius nose that don't engrave at all. The one pictured is from an old Ideal mold that has shot very well for me thru several 32-20s and other rifles. It has a two radius nose that does engrave on most of my rifles. This bullet also shoots well out of 32-20 handguns.

[45 2.1]

Nice boolit,,,,,,,lol, though ya know what I want on the tail end, {;o).
I don't mind the added expense of $.015/boolit, and it don't take long to push 'em thru one of the Lee dies.
Cheers gents, all good stuff BTW!
R*2

R*2-
I know what you wanted, but I wanted a plain base. I Freechec plain bases when I want more velocity because I do mind the 1.5 cents, which always goes up and is too much. I spend that gas check money, that you spend and I save, on molds, powder and primers.

[Willbird]

I figuire that a gascheck almost doubles the price of a ctg.

Primers 15.00
gchecks 15.00
powder 3.00
total 33.00 per 1000 for 2 grains of powder


Primers 15.00
powder 3.00
total 18.00 per 1000 for 2 grains of powder

plus with a pile of lead, powder, bullet lube, and reloading tools and molds I can load any ctg. for any gun I have, if I had to inventory checks it would be 30 caliber, 357, 375(rifle), 429, and 452, keeping the pistols bareback bullets simplifies things.

Bill


Bill

[GregP42]

If you guys do this how does it normally work? I am all for the plain base that 45 2.1 drew up as it will work both in my 92 Winchester and my Dan-Wesson 32-20. I would love to find a good 118-125g bullet for this round that I can still chamber in the pistol, I know, keep dreaming...

Greg

[Willbird]

usually the way it works is a person referred to as the "Honcho" gets commitments for 25 molds, then opens orders, takes checks, and orders the molds, and then ships the molds to the group when they arrive.

typically they run $56.00 shipped to each person as long as we get 25

if we got to 100 I think they would be $41.00


Bill

[GregP42]

Bill,

Thanks for the information, I will keep a watch on this topic to see where you guys go with it. I would love to get one, just have to make sure I can still pay the bills here for me and the son.

Greg

usually the way it works is a person referred to as the "Honcho" gets commitments for 25 molds, then opens orders, takes checks, and orders the molds, and then ships the molds to the group when they arrive.

typically they run $56.00 shipped to each person as long as we get 25

if we got to 100 I think they would be $41.00


Bill

[castalott]

I would be interested in a plain base version...but would prefer a bevel based one...anyone else?

Thanks, Dale

[woody1]

Cb 32

I would go for a mould for this boolit. Regards, Woody

[Bret4207]

Brett,
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think the Lee C309-113-F IS the Lyman 311316GC. I know my 6cav drops 'em around .313.
Cheers,
R*2

R2- They're close, but my particular copy of the 311316 is a bit different. Much flatter nose, lube grooves difererent, longer overall. The soup can's pointier and has a plain different look to it. My 311316 casts around .314, the Soup Can goes .312. No data in the 32WCF yet, but the converted 32 RF in 32S+W and S+W Long should work fine with themas the bores run closer to .310 than the .313-4 of my 32WCFs.

I'd kind of lean towards the PB for a generaly usefull boolit. The drawing looks like it would be fine.

[James Wisner]

Had some time yesterday so got out the pistols and gages. measured out the cylinder holes, groove and bores on three pistols.

Colt SAA (1908 vintage) 32-20, barrel .304 bore x .311 groove, cyl .311 dia

Ruger SSM 32 H&R, barrel .303 bore x .311 groove, cyl .311 dia

Smith Wesson 16-4 32 H&R, barrel .302 bore x .309 groove, cyl .314 dia.

This was interesting, it showed why the Smith normall shoots better that the Ruger. Had the SAA borrowed from the father in law so tore it down to get some specs off it.

Jim Wisner
Custom Metalsmith

[lar45]

My vote is for a Plain base. And I like the drawing that 45 2.1 put up. I haven't measured any of my guns yet. Life is way too busy at the moment.
I'm thinking that this would make a nice 30 cal plinker similar to the soup can but without the gascheck.
I wonder how close we could get to 100 molds?