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Thread: Hensley & Gibbs # 130

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    Hensley & Gibbs # 130

    I have a chance to buy a 3 Hensley & Gibbs bullet mould 2x#130 and a 244 4 cav

    how does the 45 185 shoot in a 1911
    and how is the 38 wc

    I know the ebay price is out of this world

    What is a fair price
    one of the moulds is missing pins/screws or has broken screws

    ps this in in Ontario (north of the border) so don't get excited
    just a local deal

    thanks

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    H & g 130

    The 130 is the Gold standard of 45 acp target boolits used by the truckloads in bullseye competition over most of the past century.
    Price is determined by several factors; condition , condition, condition, number of cavities, desirability, locale, and desire to own. These moulds were made to last several generations of dedicated shooters.

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    H&g #130

    Grab it and run! Any screws, pins or bolts are replaceable. As long as the cavities are ok, its a great deal. As for the design, the 130 has been the choice of champions for a long, long time. It feeds reliably in the 1911's, gold cups and other good pistols. The price keeps going up and you'll never lose anything. When Ballisticast gets going again soon you will see what a new one costs and it is pricey. LLS

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    FYI, the 185 grain weight is with linotype. If you use wheelweights, it'll run somewhere in the neighborhood of 195-200 grains (at least that's what mine did), That being said, it was a very accurate bullet in my wadgun with 3.6 grains of Bullseye and a 10 lb spring.

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    The H&G 130 is a great boolit for the 45ACP. The only thing better in my opinion is the H&G 68.
    I have both the H&G 68 and Lyman 452488, which is a carbon copy of the H&G 130.
    I think the 68 is a touch better in my gun than the 130, but as John Wayne once said, "I'd hate to have to live on the difference."
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    Not sure what asking price is on the mold you're looking at is but NOE has a few 2 cavity and 4 cavity 130 clones for sale in the vendor sponsor section.

    NOE 453 196Gr. SWC

    I have the 5 cavity version of this mold and it is by far the best casting mold I own. Mine drops at a consistent 198.3gr with straight ACWW.

    Last batch I cast I had about 10 to 15 rejects out of over 700 cast and about 85% to 90% cast right at 198.3gr. The rest were all within .5 grain of that.

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    Having a 4 cav mould will be different

    I have been casting for years using a RCBS 45-200 swc 2 cav
    so if it casts anywhere from 185 to 200g I will be happy

    i told him i would take both of the 105 moulds only have seen pictures

    So dropping 4 at a time x 2 moulds will empty a pot in no time

    I have been looking for a 185g mold for several years --- not many boolit casters in my area and if i get something from south of the border i might not see it for 3-4 weeks yes weeks if not longer

    Don't want to say the actual cost i am getting them but each mold will cost me more than a brand new 4 cav Lyman
    but lyman does not offer a 45acp bullet in a shape i like (at least in 185g)

    cast bullets in the local stores seem undersized for my guns (or just too hard)
    and casting stuff is all special order or very very limited seliction

    went to the last small gun show and no casting stuff except some single cav stuff for round ball moulds or the odd home machined stuff that is very odd
    used reloading dies in cardboard boxes for $40-60 yes the price of new stuff

    actually hoping mould drops on the light side (for the wife) and me

    thanks for the info

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    I know that the 130 was widely used in bullseye competition, so I got a mold and tried it.

    In my guns the Lyman 452460 will out shoot it on every test I did, which is not a huge
    amount of testing, maybe 5 or 6 groups. No magic in it for me.

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    Many 3-gun shooter used the 130 for their 25-yd loads. Less recoil, allowing faster recovery during the sustained-fire stages. And back to the 68 for 50-yd Slow Fire. You will like this boolit.
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    Will the 130 feed in a stock 1911?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabezaverde View Post
    Will the 130 feed in a stock 1911?
    Yes, it will usually feed in un-altered guns just fine.
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    What is it that this government feels they need to do, but can't do, unless the citizens of this nation are first disarmed?
    (I seriously doubt you can come up with any plausible answers that you will like...)

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    mystery solved

    Glad I read this thread, I also have the 130 but my mold drops a 200 gr. I just figured i had a custom HG 130. Instead of the normal 185 gr. mold. I use a lead -tin- antimony mix.

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    My 4 cavity H&G #130 will drop a 185 grain bullet from 2/6 alloy . It just does make a .452” bullet from WW alloy.

    I’ve had guys shoot it and fall in love with it saying it worked better than the #68. I think some of that may be simply that a cherry load was fallen into when they stuffed the #130 in. A #68 or the #130 is capable of shooing sub 2” groups at fifty yards. Shooters who can do that usually say the #68 is better at 50 yards in the wind.

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    Thought I would revive this thread instead of starting a new one. Picked up an H&H 130 recently and I am getting ready to work up a load for my Springfield TRP 1911. Anyone have an OAL starting point with this boolit? Going to try and work up some loads to try out soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chunky Monkey View Post
    Thought I would revive this thread instead of starting a new one. Picked up an H&H 130 recently and I am getting ready to work up a load for my Springfield TRP 1911. Anyone have an OAL starting point with this boolit? Going to try and work up some loads to try out soon.

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    Got it in a trade!
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    Use your pistol's barrel to setup your dies.

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    I have some to try out at 1.160 thats about half up or down the first band

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    I have some to try out at 1.160 thats about half up or down the first band
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    The H&G 130 is a nice bullet and with range scrap it is about 200 grains, but does not feed as well as the 68. The 130 comes up for sale quite often, so I wouldn't pay and exorbitant price. I personally prefer my H&G #68's as they feed 100% and the accuracy is legend, but they come up for sale a lot less frequently and typically bring top dollar.

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