derim 22LR and sizing brass with pneumatic press!

[BT Sniper]

Here you go guys.

Deriming 22LR and sizing 5.7x28 brass from .316 to .302 quickly and easily with a pneumatic press! Works like a dream!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp22uIuu1yc

22 cal dies are in the works. As you can see I'm having no problem deriming the cases. Core seat die is done too. Just need to order/make/buy custom reamer for point die.

Good shooting and swage on!

Be sure and stay for credits

BT

[bohica2xo]

Looks great, but seems kinda slow - can it run faster?

B.

[Utah Shooter]

"Actual operation of press is controlled by button located off screen that I push to opereate ram."

That is what it looks like too. Not saying that it is bad. More safe than anything.

[DDriller]

BT haven't got all my dies yet and you are after more of my money. What is this going to cost me?

[BT Sniper]

It cost me a lot but is worth every penny. I don't know if it will be avialable yet or not. We'll have to see. Would probably require some laibility waver in case someone smashed their finger.

BT

[DDriller]

BT rig up a safety switch like is on a garage door opener. If your finger is in the light beam the ram won't move.

[deltaenterprizes]

Use the same hand you to push the button that you use to put the brass on the punch and keep your other hand in your pocket. One brain fart and a trip to the emergency room will be avoided.

[Jailer]

That is fantastic. Good from a production standpoint but how cost effective?

How many rounds do you have to make before it starts paying for itself? I know we do this because we love this stuff but cost effectiveness has to be considered.

Was the 22 brass that you were de rimming annealed?

[BT Sniper]

Was the 22 brass that you were de rimming annealed?

Nope!

You only have to try and size so many pieces of brass on a manual press before you realize the worth of such a machine. Kind of like a powered cannalure machine. The only way to justify the cost is by the smile it puts on your face vs. doing it the hard way. Saves me frustration and side aches/strained muscles or possible hernias. That to me would cost a lot more then this machine did.

I made it look dramatic for the camara. It is a lot safer then it looks. Yes brain farts would be bad. Just dont fart!

BT

[marten]

Normal operation on this type of machinery is two handed control, you load the ram then need both hands to press/actuate a separate 'button' to allow ram stroke. Without this type of control you will be open to litigation if someone swages their paw regardless of waivers!

Brain farts apart you can see that the single button allows easy damage to a paw...phone rings, 'honey do', knock on the door.
Not having a pop at you but the 'dramatisation' sure shows how it could go wrong. It is not safer than it looks - it is the simplest of things to mash your hand in that system.

I only point this out as I work in industry and have to be au-fait with these sort of safety systems.
Believe me the only way that you can truly attempt to make this safe is to ensure hands are removed completely from the punch area before stroke can start.

Again please do not take this as a slur on your work, it is just to point out a basic operation error.

Keep up the good work!

BTW Google 'two hand control'

ATB

[mold maker]

After an Insurance Investigator, asked how an industrial accident, costing 3 finger, happened,,,,, the BOSS demonstrated.
Not all the money spent, on the education we got, had the desired effect.
Ya just can't fix stupid.
There are many of us still waiting to remove a finger or two. We just haven't been allowed an opportunity, to put our fingers in the right place at the wrong time.
Glad ya offered the fact of needing to manually activate, instead of automatic, but as in the example above, requiring both hands is a big plus.
Reloading with 3 fingers and half a thumb, would suck.

[63 Shiloh]

Very impressive Brian!

Marten, I have heard of excessive litigation in the USA, I have put most of it down to exaggeration.

Surely, if Brian was to develop a kit like the one in his video, he cannot be held responsible for incorrect use?

I do not understand how someone could sue another party due to their own faulty use.

Is it really that 'strict' in the US, or are you just having a bit of a laugh with Brian?

Mike

[marten]

Very impressive Brian!

Marten, I have heard of excessive litigation in the USA, I have put most of it down to exaggeration.

Surely, if Brian was to develop a kit like the one in his video, he cannot be held responsible for incorrect use?

I do not understand how someone could sue another party due to their own faulty use.

Is it really that 'strict' in the US, or are you just having a bit of a laugh with Brian?

Mike

Unfortunately it is very easily proven with that setup that injury can occur.
When you sell gear to the public you need to make it as 'foolproof' as possible, sad fact is that common sense is not a legal defence.
Not having a laugh, just informing gently. I understand that stupid is as stupid does...
Please do not take these posts as trying to rain on a parade, they are a nudge to think a little more carefully about operation and consequences of misuse, nothing more!


ATB

[marten]

One other way to keep pinkies out the way.....
how about a case feed...Thinking about it, it's not to difficult to construct!

[BT Sniper]

No offence taken.

BT

[BT Sniper]

case feed would be cool

[63 Shiloh]

Right, thanks for that info Marten, I was curious about this as I am thinking of a project myself. One that will probably just service Australia at first, but maybe in the US one day.

I do need to read up on this litigation business, from your info marten, it seems I am a little naive.

Oh, and by the way mate, I think my 'having a laugh' comment may have been lost in translation too

Down here, 'having a laugh' would mean that you two may have a private joke going on between you, that you would know each other outside the forum.

It is not a statement of negativity in nay way at all mate.

OK, I have hijacked Brian's thread too long, I shall watch with interest in the de rimming setup progress.


Mike

[DukeInFlorida]

Wait until the guys in that OTHER .22 LR jacket thread get a peek at what Brian is already doing.....

Can you say, "Proper Ogive"?????

[Spanners]

Simple to fix ******* issues - 2 buttons more than a hand span apart.
You need left hand on safety button and right hand hits activation button.
Hit right hand button without left being held down - nothing happens - like Corbin Hydro Press

[marten]

Simple to fix ******* issues - 2 buttons more than a hand span apart.
You need left hand on safety button and right hand hits activation button.
Hit right hand button without left being held down - nothing happens - like Corbin Hydro Press

Nearly there, your idea is defeatable by holding / jamming your safety button down!
The real way is to have to actuate both buttons within a short time...


Anyroad I've said my piece, carry on guys!!!!