Why no Paypal

[DCP]

So why no Paypal?

Yes I know they're not Gun friendly but so are a lot of Cities and States. We all dont get up and move. Yes I know someone did.

Now with Gas hitting near $4.00 a gal and most likely over $5.00 soon
USPS MO fees and a stamp and a 3 to 5 day delay to ship your nearing $8.00 to $10.00 added to the price you paid

If you the buyer pay the paypal fee its adds only 3% to the price

A $100.00 item will cost about $3.00 more


With computers, cell phone, GPS. With some devices all the preceding in one. With Bill Pay and the ATMs It seems to me a bit old fashion

Please tell me why no Paypal and dont be shy?

Thanks

[ktw]

I use it and like it.

This site takes it for donations. It's the only way to buy MP (Mihec) group buy molds here. I'm not seeing the problem.

-ktw

[joatmon]

For some I've asked principle out weighs dollars.
Thanks Aaron

[Charlie Two Tracks]

I use it. I have two different Mihec moulds and have donated to this site with it. There are other times also but I don't remember what it was.
edit: I sent money to my daughter in California.

[Bulltipper]

I use it when I have to, doesn't mean I like it. They get you coming and going. Greed-bay tried to make it mandatory. They aren't gun friendly by a long shot. California isn't gun friendly. I moved to Oregon.
Bulltipper

[thenaaks]

the post office is anti-gun. but it's ok to use their money orders? my post office always freaks out when i ship brass...almost wouldn't ship a bolt from a remington rifle. i hate going there...there's always a line and only one clerk working...one or two in the back talking, though. i can hardly get to the post office during business hours...seems they're only open when i'm at work...so i prefer to use paypal. you can send money using the "personal" tab to avoid their fees. or like others have said, it's only three percent. unless you're buying something really expensive, it's cheaper than driving and money order fees.

[300winmag]

Check this link out, ebay owns paypal, paypal can put a freeze your funds for know reason. I know a few people this has happened to and nothing to do with ebay. SHAFTED

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum/Paypal/97

[thenaaks]

Check this link out, ebay owns paypal, paypal can put a freeze your funds for know reason. I know a few people this has happened to and nothing to do with ebay. SHAFTED

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum/Paypal/97

there's an easy solution to that...don't keep any funds in your account. if you have a zero balance the money is either deducted from your bank acct, or credit card...paypal can't freeze either of those.

[KYCaster]

Ummm.........lemme see if I can answer this one.

Brad and Sarah own a pharmacy...they compete head to head with Walgreens and RiteAid, and I can get on line and buy OTC stuff cheaper than anything I can find locally....

....but I can stop in on the way to have lunch with Mom, say hi to Brad and Sarah (nice folks), pick up the TP, vitamins and Preparation H I need and maybe the conversation will go like this...

"Hey Jerry, do you have time to fix the faucet in our basement bathroom?"

"Yeah, I'm having lunch with Mom, but I'm free after that."

"Great, here's a key to the back door. When you're done, leave the key on the kitchen table and lock up when you leave. Oh, I have your Mom's prescription ready; do you want to take it?"


Same thing with the insurance agent, the local "Stop N Rob", two gun shops, etc., etc.........

How much of the fee that you give to Pay-pal(or the on line vendor for that matter) ends up in your local economy and comes directly back to your pocket?

It pays to do business with the people who do business with you. Its a business plan that I've found works pretty well.

Jerry

[300winmag]

A friend of mine operates a small hardware here in town, he excepts paypal. He sold a chain saw the guy paid with paypal $300.00 2 days later the man requested his money back from paypal said the saw did not work they gave it to him and took it out of Johns account and he never got the saw back.

[thenaaks]

How much of the $1.15 that the PO charges winds up in the local economy? And I'm doing business with the guy on the forum who sold me some boolit-related item...he's getting the money...paypal is the means of getting my money to him. an easier (and less expensive) means.

[300winmag]

How much of the $1.15 that the PO charges winds up in the local economy? And I'm doing business with the guy on the forum who sold me some boolit-related item...he's getting the money...paypal is the means of getting my money to him. an easier (and less expensive) means.

Not to argue by no means.
Paypal is o.k for buyers, but as a seller It could be risky but who knows your bank could crash tomorrow.

[waksupi]

Not to argue by no means.
Paypal is o.k for buyers, but as a seller It could be risky but who knows your bank could crash tomorrow.

Good point. If you aren't already doing it, deal with a locally owned bank. They have skin in the game.

[waksupi]

A friend of mine operates a small hardware here in town, he excepts paypal. He sold a chain saw the guy paid with paypal $300.00 2 days later the man requested his money back from paypal said the saw did not work they gave it to him and took it out of Johns account and he never got the saw back.

He didn't get the saw back before refunding the money?

DUH!

All in all, get over the Paypal thing. I bet I could look at nearly every bodies consumables, and come up with companies I would consider unacceptable for various reasons. Tell me you buy ONLY US made products.

[shunka]

He didn't get the saw back before refunding the money?

DUH!

All in all, get over the Paypal thing. .

Ah My Dear Waksupi -

therein is the underlying problem with paypal for SELLERS.
The seller did not refund the money for the saw, paypal did.

When a buyer complains to Paypal that said buyer is ultimately unhappy with the transaction, then Paypal, acting on behalf of the so-called buyer (in this case scammer) withdrew funds from the selllers account and transferred them back to the buyer, often without prior notification to the seller or any sort mediation.

This actually happens with unfortunate frequency, and the seller has little or no recourse. Usually the seller is only notified after the fact, and often ends up eating the cost, and never gets the merchandise returned. As far as I have been able to determine, the sellers only recourse is a civil action, by which time everybody discovers to their great surprise that the buyer doesn't really exist, has done this to a number of sellers, uses a fake drop address, and has cleaned out their paypal account and disappeared with all the merchandise (from different vendors) and the refunded funds.

As a result of these sorts of draconian actions by Paypal, (as well as freezing or stealing funds if it determines a transaction is "gun related") quite a number of vendors I know, (especially those in the gem, mineral, and semiprecious stone business) having been burned in such a manner have stopped accepting paypal at all.

Paypal itself seems to be an interesting entity that no one can figure out how to police, regulate, etc unlike banks and such. As a result they can and do impose their own rules and enforce them at whim, with little recourse to the seller.

just my two bits
yhs
shunka

[dromia]

I don't like Paypal as they seem to have it everyway.

However when buying from Johnny Foreigner its the only and cheapest game in town.

Its allowed me to trade easily with many of the fine members of our international community here on Cast boolits.

That deserves a bit of recognition

[DCP]

Well all forms of payments can be rip off

I believe even USPS MO have been counterfeited

For a seller, I would be sure the buyer is Paypal Verified

I cant see ever paying an extra $8.00 to $10.00 for A $25.00 item. There are items I haven't bought because the seller wont take paypal. I will just buy a new one if possible.

My time is also worth something it takes maybe 2 min to make a paypal payment

When a buyer buys from seller there is a risk the seller isn't real, misdescribed, sends a empty box or wont send the item. I would think this would happen more than the seller getting scammed.

Buying local is a good practices, but I would never use the local rent to own, the local payday loan or the local hardware store whose owner is a jerk.

Thanks

[troyboy]

I only use PP when I have to. PO money orders are a PIA. The problem with e-bay is that PP is the only game in town. If you want to do business there then you have to do it their way. It is what it is. Myself I prefer to send a check when a purchase is made. I like my business private. Times are changing and we have to roll with the punches. Sooner or later money will be a thing of the past. All transactions will be electronic. Not a whole lot anybody can do........

[geargnasher]

For some I've asked principle out weighs dollars.
Thanks Aaron

Indeed it does. I used to have a Paypal account to purchase items from Ebay, but I haven't used either in eight years, since I discovered their principles.

the post office is anti-gun. but it's ok to use their money orders? my post office always freaks out when i ship brass...almost wouldn't ship a bolt from a remington rifle. i hate going there...there's always a line and only one clerk working...one or two in the back talking, though. i can hardly get to the post office during business hours...seems they're only open when i'm at work...so i prefer to use paypal. you can send money using the "personal" tab to avoid their fees. or like others have said, it's only three percent. unless you're buying something really expensive, it's cheaper than driving and money order fees.

The Post Office may be anti-gun, but they don't take a large percentage of the fees they collect in order to directly support anti-gun lobbying organizations.

Gear

[imashooter2]

I have PayPal linked to an account that I keep $20 in. When I receive a payment I immediately transfer the funds to the account and then transfer them out, leaving only the $20. Someday, PayPal may beat me out of the $20. It's a chance I'm willing to take.