Second class again,

[morrisammo]

after the Obama election you could not find a primer or bullet to buy, the folks that know I cast bullets, all had me casting bullets for them,, I made a lil Powder money,,
These days, no one seems to be interested in cast bullets,
I still cast my own, for pennies, and they shoot just fine,
Has anyone else noticed this?

[stubshaft]

In my area the price of components are like gas prices, they never come down. In fact I find the opposite has happened in that the masses have found that they could get all the accuracy they need by switching to cast and have seen many converts.

[targetshootr]

Yes, the scare industry worked us over pretty good again. In Dec '08, I bought powder and primers through our gun club at the same price as the year before. Went back again in Jan 2010 and the price had gone up about 2% while stores were marking it up 300%.

[JIMinPHX]

Around me, primers are going for $30/M on average, with the occasional sale on a specific type for around $20/M. Powders by the pound are mostly in the $20-25 range at Cabellas & $16-22 at Sportsman's warehouse.

I've been casting & shooting pretty close to steadily through the whole "shortage". I slowed down shooting a little, but not a lot. Casting allowed me to do that. I still cast. I still shoot. I see no reason to change now. Other people can do as they please. There certainly is plenty of ammo around now, although prices are still a little high. When .45acp hardball comes back down below $15/box of name brand Boxer Brass loaded ammo, I may pick up 2 or 3 boxes. The same goes for .357 ammo when it hits that same price. Other than that, I can't see myself buying any loaded ammo in the next year.

[BulletFactory]

Obama started me with guns and reloading both. The gun due to the election, the reloading because of the ammo, and now with the AWB threat, Ive got a new Socom 16 M1A rifle with a 20 round mag. Thanks BO. The only problem now is that there arent any wheelweights. So many people are hoarding them, that I gave up even trying to find them.

[targetshootr]

Obama started me with guns and reloading both. The gun due to the election, the reloading because of the ammo, and now with the AWB threat, Ive got a new Socom 16 M1A rifle with a 20 round mag. Thanks BO. The only problem now is that there arent any wheelweights. So many people are hoarding them, that I gave up even trying to find them.

Oh good, politics. You can thank the NRA for all the fear mongering.

[iammarkjones]

Yup I will happily stay in second class paying $20.00 for a 7 gallon bucket full of clean WW smiling all the while.

[c3d4b2]

I do not know if it is being demoted to second class.

Normally what happens is the news spreads that supplies are short and people get more than they use. Once they have a few years supply they loose interest.

I may not be remembering this correctly..... Didn't Johnny Carson start a run on toilet paper from one of his comments?

[frkelly74]

There is free lead in them thar hills. don't tell anyone. As the snow recedes the harvest commences.

[Bret4207]

Oh good, politics. You can thank the NRA for all the fear mongering.

Yeah, it's all in our minds, that whole socialist/disarm the people/tax them/regulate them so we can stay in power thing, the whole National Debt/deficit/nuclear issue too.

Sheesh guy, it's a lot bigger than NRA.

[songdog53]

Second class, funny never thought anyone that can take whatever lead he/she could find and wind up with loaded ammo. I was casting reloading long before ever heard of the Obama and with prices they are charging for factory ammo i think will be lot more of us second class people. Obama started the scare and now there are rumors of excutive order banning our guns.

[timkelley]

Yup I will happily stay in second class paying $20.00 for a 7 gallon bucket full of clean WW smiling all the while.

Wish I could be such a second classer.

[targetshootr]

Yeah, it's all in our minds, that whole socialist/disarm the people/tax them/regulate them so we can stay in power thing, the whole National Debt/deficit/nuclear issue too.

Sheesh guy, it's a lot bigger than NRA.

There's no shortage of paranoia out here but regards guns and ammo, it's manufactured paranoia. The NRA uses elections for recruitment drives and nothing works better than fear whether it's justified or not. And it's usually not. So you can thank them for these new prices.

[Bret4207]

IIRC you are quite liberal in your views to start with. Gun control is not a debatable issue, efforts to pass new gun control laws and to disarm people are very real, I haven't seen NRA saying anything about any legislation I didn't find was actually in play. If anything, I find NRA to be somewhat laid back and unconcerned about gun control issues.

[10x]

I live in an area where competition for any scrap lead means visiting tire shops often and getting 20-100 lb of wheel weights. Often someone "just picked them up yesterday".
One of the local guys got a shotmaker and tours the tire shops every two weeks...

[steg]

as far as selling cast boolits or cast reloads, most of the uninformed shooters in my area have tried them and all you hear is they leaded up my barrel so bad I couldn't even see the lands, now you know that they haven't prepared the piece for shooting cast boolits, get the brass out etc. but if this happens once, everyone of their shooting pals hears about it and is turned off on cast boolits, I've given up trying to educate them on the subject, most people would call them Red Necks, and that is an insult to me, I'm a Red Neck and darned proud of it, those people are beyond help, I was even out shooting at a range one time next to a guy using condoms, he quit shooting after one box and i fired two more boxes, handing him the gun every other load, he said I must be rich to be able to shoot that many rounds at one time and sharing also, I told him that I cast my own boolits and I can shoot alot cheaper than he could using tailor mades. He looked at me and said I'd hate to be you when it comes time to clean that barrel, it must be loaded with lead. I took a dry patch and ran it through to get the powder residue out and told him to look thru it, he couldn't believe what he saw, not a trace of lead and a shiny bore. I hope you guys stayed around for the whole read, I get carried away sometimes......................................... steg

[10x]

as far as selling cast boolits or cast reloads, most of the uninformed shooters in my area have tried them and all you hear is they leaded up my barrel so bad I couldn't even see the lands, now you know that they haven't prepared the piece for shooting cast boolits, get the brass out etc. but if this happens once, everyone of their shooting pals hears about it and is turned off on cast boolits, I've given up trying to educate them on the subject, most people would call them Red Necks, and that is an insult to me, I'm a Red Neck and darned proud of it, those people are beyond help, I was even out shooting at a range one time next to a guy using condoms, he quit shooting after one box and i fired two more boxes, handing him the gun every other load, he said I must be rich to be able to shoot that many rounds at one time and sharing also, I told him that I cast my own boolits and I can shoot alot cheaper than he could using tailor mades. He looked at me and said I'd hate to be you when it comes time to clean that barrel, it must be loaded with lead. I took a dry patch and ran it through to get the powder residue out and told him to look thru it, he couldn't believe what he saw, not a trace of lead and a shiny bore. I hope you guys stayed around for the whole read, I get carried away sometimes......................................... steg

I have shot cast bullets for over 40 years. I only had leading problems with the first 20 rounds before I discovered gas checks. Since then leading has been a problem that other folks have had.
My problem now is the competition for scrap lead. A dozen cast bullet shooters here will keep the wheel weight pails in the tire shops empty. What I once hauled away free as a service to the tire shops now costs a bottle or two of Rye whiskey.

[bowenrd]

Supply and demand is what regulates pricing, not the NRA.

[MikeACP]

I'm brand new here. When I started reloading a few years ago,it was to save money. I quickly realized how much I enjoyed my new hobby. I would reload if factory ammo dropped to half it's price. Looking at casting, it looks interesting and fun. Another hobby I can enjoy while in my 50s now. It will be nice to have a stash of lead and bullets. It will be nice to save money. But for the most part,it looks like fun.

[targetshootr]

IIRC you are quite liberal in your views to start with. Gun control is not a debatable issue, efforts to pass new gun control laws and to disarm people are very real, I haven't seen NRA saying anything about any legislation I didn't find was actually in play. If anything, I find NRA to be somewhat laid back and unconcerned about gun control issues.

I'll take that label any day, thank you very much. My beef with the NRA isn't only that they use paranoia to raise money and membership, I also have the feeling they keep states from having any oversight of the gunsmithing trade like there is for most every other trade. If you ever send a weapon to a gunsmith out of state and he does terrible work on it, then you'll know what I'm talking about.