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Vettepilot
@LAGS
https://cals.arizona.edu/yavapaiplan...cies=altissima
Vettepilot
"Those who sacrifice freedom for security, have neither."
Benjamin Franklin. (A very wise man!)
Thank you Vettepilot.
That narrows down the area I need to visit to find those trees.
Now I just have to find the time to get up there.
I came up with the idea of using the 1/4" screen to separate the finer material out of chipped up wood , because remember.
I tried using a garden chipper to chip up some wood.
It came out really finely chipped up.
So screening was my only option.
But the finely chipped stuff still worked in my barbeque smoker.
Last edited by LAGS; 12-05-2021 at 07:43 PM.
I hope I can find some of that Tree Of Heaven, one day. I have feelers out, for it. Lots of guys say it's the real deal. I'll stumble on to some, one day. The Alder Buckthorn I've about gave up on.
A bit off topic here guys, but I thought some of you might be interested in this. I read a ton, and this is an excerpt from an article I was reading in Handloader magazine:
--Triple 7--
"Chemically, the major elements of Triple Seven are 10 percent charcoal, 10 percent sodium benzoate, 30 percent potassium nitrate, 30 percent potassium perchlorate, 10 percent dicyanamide and 10 percent dextrin. Other elements of Triple Seven are proprietary information. The autoignition temperature of Triple Seven is 770 degrees Fahrenheit. Of special note is that it has been incorrectly stated in a number of instances in other shooting publications, in print and on the internet (Wikipedia), that Triple Seven uses gluconic acid (glucose or sugar-based) as the principal fuel source for the propellant. This is incorrect. Charcoal, as noted in the chemical composition above, is the principal fuel source for Triple Seven."
Interesting, and that 10% Dextrin sure doesn't seem to hurt Triple 7 any! Heh?
Vettepilot
Last edited by Vettepilot; 12-05-2021 at 11:58 PM.
"Those who sacrifice freedom for security, have neither."
Benjamin Franklin. (A very wise man!)
No wonder the stuff is rather corrosive, with the perchlorate in it. I'll stick to the real stuff.
In my area of South Central Missouri, Carolina Buckthorn (Frangula Caroliniana) is what I find locally. It does have berries and seemed to work decent enough when I tried it. It gave little ash, but Black Willow gave better velocity.
Sassafras gave little ash and was getting close to Black Willow in velocity, so I will try more Sassafras whenever I get around to making up another batch. I can easily find and identify Sassafras around my area the year round whether it has leaves or not. If in doubt, one only has to pull up the roots and check for the really pleasant Sassafras smell. If only the burned powder smelled as good.
73 de n0ubx, Rick
NRA Benefactor Life Member/VFW Life Member
So, has anyone tried to replicate Pyrodex pellets but with black powder? I really want to try this but I'm no machinist. I figure we'll need a die with a hollow core and maybe some spacers to make multiple pellets with a single press.
Having something that's easy to load in a known quantity and cutting out the corning process makes it seem worth trying.
Pyrotechnic stars are what you see in fireworks displays. They are made from BP pellets of many sizes that have certain metals added to the BP to produce different colors. Strontium=red, Barium=green, Sodium=yellow, these are BP pellets. I have never made any BP pellets except for stars, but they have been made for ever.
I pulled the trigger on a pedersoli 1874 sharps in 45-90 long range model. I did my homework on this and I really like how Pedersoli puts all they have in their product particularily how they make their barrels. I hope to find brass soon enough. There is literally nothing out there anywhere. In the meantime, ill be making some powder for it with my new ball mill and studying up on reloading for this beast. The Shiloh would have been nice, but its just too expensive for now. This one already cost me an arm and a leg. I hope this will bring another level of appreciation for black powder.
Last edited by almar; 12-07-2021 at 10:03 PM.
“It is not enough that we do our best; sometimes we must do what is required.”
― Winston S. Churchill
Awesome almar! Congrats; Pedersoli are awesome gunmakers.
I use a Pedersoli Mortimer flinter target rifle, also have 12G barrel, Tryon percussion rifle, and a Charles Moore flint/smooth and percussion/rifled duelling pistol. Many of their products are chosen by other people at my club.
Thank you Chris! I've been eying it for some time, I always talked myself out of it but after this much time of thinking about it, I think it was meant to be.
“It is not enough that we do our best; sometimes we must do what is required.”
― Winston S. Churchill
"Those who sacrifice freedom for security, have neither."
Benjamin Franklin. (A very wise man!)
Almar;
Congratulations on the new rifle! I've always read good reviews etc., on Pedersoli.
I did not have much time when I posted this before. The guys that make rockets, both black powder and sugar rockets, make them with a hole up through the center, and tightly packed, or "rammed" powder. They use tooling to make them, either store bought or homemade. This idea might be adapted to your proposed purpose, whether you buy the tooling like they use, or get ideas therefrom to create your own tooling.
Good luck and be careful!
Vettepilot
"Those who sacrifice freedom for security, have neither."
Benjamin Franklin. (A very wise man!)
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |