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24.5 of 1680 behind RCBS 200 does better than the RCBS 180 Sil in my 24" 1-14 encore barrel. 296 and 4227 didn't do as well. 1680 seems to work better in a long barrel

You'll probably get a hefty muzzle blast with 1680 and that short barrel. The slower powder, 2400 and 4227 not near as much. I have a 24" Max that prefers 1680 over 4227 with RCBS 200. Good luck,...

I have the following, Winchester trapper with a 16" barrel with 1-38 twist, accuracy with target load is terrible. Same load in a contender 10" with 1-20 twist shoots great. Also have a 24" Encore...

24" MGM Max, 1-14 twist. Seems to likes the RCBS 200 over the RCBS 180 Sil. with 1680

if the gas checks are not spoken for, I'll take them. If my common core math is correct 3 x 4 is 12. add the 0 and its a $120 shipped?

My 2 cents if for the Max with 1-14 twist. A RCBS 35-250 is 1.145" long, with 1-16, stability is 1.891. with 14 twist @ 1600 fps is 2.470. with 1-12 twist is 3.362, 1-12 seems a little fast. ...

Pm email sent. Lak

Have a 24” encore with 1-14 twist. Likes 1680 best with RCBS 200. Under 2” groups at 100 yds

Pm sent on the 44 gas checks. Mark

Thanks guy for the info, I do have a large supply of IMR3031

Almost certain I've seen some post on favorite 358 loads, but cast seem to find them. Anyone at liberty to share their pet 358 Win. loads? I have RCBS 35-SIL, RCBS 35-200, RCBS 35-250. Powders are...

Mr Larry Giibon and I had some discussion of an Encore barrel, 7mm 08 with 1-12 twist. Barrel got here and I shot some factory 139's load out of it and it didn't do so good. Lost complete interest...

Alright, let me throw my 2 cents in. I have an encore 24" 445 with 1-16 twist from MGM. Best group was RCBS 240 Sil. with 37 grains of 1680. Group was about 1.25" at 120 yards. The reason for the...

1680 is my choice of powder for my 24" Max.1-14 twist. But the RCBS 35-200 seems to shot better than the 180 Sil. The 180 sits deeper in the case than the 200. 1680 is slower and in just my...

I'll take the 7mm bullets.

MY vote would be to rebarrel for the same reason mentioned above. If you did go to 338, what twist would you order?

I don't want to get off subject, but you mentioned the 357 Max. Handy Rifles have 1-18 twist. The Max I have is 1-14 and is picky about what you shoot out of it. Best groups are with RCBS 200 and...

I have the same barrel only from MGM. RCBS 200 and 24 grains of 1680 seem to be the most accurate load I have found so far

I had to show my wife your collection and asked her to not give me a hard time about my gun habit when I have less than a dozen firearms .....

I have a Encore Max with 1-14 twist and it shoots RCBS 200 better that the RCBS Sil180 grain. Now I'm gona really muddy up the water, I did alot of research before ordering a barrel, on another web...

This may not help, but I will convey what an older gentleman experience with his 77/44. He and a friend each bought that same rifle and neither of them could get their rifle to pattern. The older...

Good thread, may explain some of my erratic accuracy issues. The barrel I have seems to prefer 24 to 24.5 grs of 1680. Also prefers the RCBS 200 over the 180 Sil

I havent read every response to your problem, so I may have missed something. My problem wasn't the neck. I had the same proble with 7-08 encore that would not chamber once fired 308 brass. Ended...

I have a 24" 445 Encore with 1-16 twist. Thinking the faster twist would all for lighter loads. 1680 seems to be the best, RCBS 240 Sil with 37.5 grains of 1680 gave 1.5" groups at 125yds. Load...

Rcbs 200 with 24 gr of 1680 work the best in my 24" Encore. 1680 may be slow for a short barrel where 4227, H110 and 296 may work much better. Gave 2 lbs of LilGun away, WAY to hot. Will have to...