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Bought three pounds of it today, mainly because it did well with the 311284 in my Krag last I tried it. Looking in an old Speer manual, looks like it should be good with heavy bullets in the 8mm-06 and likely others. How does everybody feel about this stuff for use in cast rifle loads?
I use Hodgdon's recipe now, but outside of the typical .223 or .45-70 loads, it's fantastic for most things cast. I've used it in 30-06, 8mm, 7.5 French, and .303 with success. My groups with 2400 were generally better, but my load development wasn't super extensive, so when I can't get one, I use the other.
for me its the #1 powder for rifle loads, because I got lots of it but reloder 7 is right up there with it
I had 1/2 a can from way back and wanted to use it up just to empty it I loaded for a 30-30 with a 164 grain LEE bullet and turned out to be one of my best loads for that cartridge .
I used a bunch of it in .222 and .223 bolt actions in the 1970's. Great accuracy. Ive used it for cast in .450 Marlin, 30-30, 8mm Mauser, and 38-55 with good results there too. It's great for reduced loads in lots of bigger cartridges too.
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I use it for 45/70, 444 Marlin,458 Socom,375 H&H Mag. and more it is good for cast boolits
I use it for cast in my 30-30, 270 Win, 6.5 Grendel. Its a good cast bullet powder.
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I have used in 45/70 for heavies. Its been a Good Hornet and Bee powder too. But today for me its a 30/30 cast bullet powder. 21-23g produces nearly one hole 50Y groups with a few 170 ish g bullets! I just loaded 50 the other day with the Arsenal 311/170 rf bullet powder coated.Quote:
Originally Posted by bimus
I 4198 is probably the most used rifle powder I have for lead boolits. I use it in my 50-70’s, 45-70’s , smokeless muzzleloader, 38-55’s, and many others on down to 256 Win Mag.
It’s a great powder.
Jedman
I don't use IMR4198 anymore and I'm not sure why as I think about it, but for one powder that will cover many rifle cast bullet uses, it's hard to beat. I can't recall ever trying the Hodgdon version, but I'm pretty sure the same can be said for it.
I too use it for 45/70, 38/55, .35 Remington, 9.3X62 and others. If I could only have one powder, not sure this is the one, but it would be on the short list!
for some reason that i don't know, hodgdon 4198 is the 30-40 krag powder of choice. the imr 4198(the same powder?) is also good too.
I dont beleive they are the same powder. Some do how ever. I would not use the same load without first tuning.
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Wow, you found powder. I sure would love to find some H4198. There are slight differences between IMR & H 4198.
I am glad there are so many uses for it because a friend just gave me 5 pounds of it!
Powders I can find. Still a lot of jacketed bullets too, several smaller shops around that have some on hand. Primers are a no go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawlerbrook
I'm wanting to try this in the 50 Beowulf, anybody have/know where to find data for 300gr+ bullets??
4198 might be a bit slow for 50 beowulf, Lyman book calls for 1680, h110 and 4227. but I'm pretty much a stickler to using safe published load data. I leave the real experimenting to the ballistics experts.
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Originally Posted by Rcmaveric
some guys do and some don't. but i'm with you, start low and go up from there.
72 &73 are on the chart
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imr4198 and h4198 are different powders, load data is not the same, you can squeeze out a bit more velocity with h4198.
not to confuse the issue but h and imr 4227, is the same and w296 and h110 is the same and h414 and w760 are the same and there are a few others
It can be used very satisfactorily in almost any cast rifle caliber.
My 218 Bee really shines with 11.5 grs. of IMR4198 pushing a NOE 45gr. gas checked WFN boolit using a 6 1/2 rem. primer.
That's good to know, I have a .218 Bee I have not started loading with cast, but use that 45 grain WFN NOE in .22 Hornet. Mine is all plain based, maybe I can get a gas checked version of it for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TCFAN
IMR-4198 and the Krag are made for each other, with cast boolets. I even use it for 200 gr boolets. Lyman #3 has it listed to pretty high velocities but not for the 200 grs. They switch to way slower powders. I'm only trying for 1800 fps with the 314299's
Needed a powder for my new to me 7mm mauser and found that Hodgdon had imr4198 in stock yesterday. got 6 pounds coming, looks like it will work with my 223 also.
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My favorite powder with the 45-70 and 7.62x39.