Is Aguila .22 ammo any good just for general plinking? Dunhams has it for $20/500.
I guess I need to know if it is better of worse than the Remington junk!
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Is Aguila .22 ammo any good just for general plinking? Dunhams has it for $20/500.
I guess I need to know if it is better of worse than the Remington junk!
I've run the stuff in semi and bolt rifles and pistols for years and its not bad. The std velocity stuff is as accurate as any of the federal or CCI standard stuff. The high velocity is pretty good too. The SSS heavy 60gr bullet ammo can create some issues due to the short case they use. You'll get build up in the chamber where the case ends. That can make chambering normal length cases a problem. Also the heavy bullet does not stabilize well in the slow twist barrels that are normal for the 22LR. If you're shooting with a suppressor you should not use this ammo.
Hope that helps
Frank
yes on the standard an hv ammo, no experience with others
So far so good I have been shooting some with no complaints. Has to be better than thunderduds.
I had some a few years ago. It shot good, but it seemed to be kind of oily and messy to handle.
Aguila makes good ammo. Rimfire, centerfire, and shotgun. Some of the specialty ammo like the mini shot shells and the 60gr .22s are just that- specialty. Everything else that I have used has been fine.
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Aguila actually makes quite a few different varieties of 22LR ammo. Some of their Match ammo is top notch.
Somebody in Mexico must have been watching the political situation to the north and ramped up production accordingly, just about every shop in town is out of everything else, but new Aguila is available, and is restocked almost as fast as it sells.
The Aguila Super-Colibre is probably my most favorite, non-match 22 ammo.
I like their HV 22 LR. My model 60 will do around 1" with it at 75 yards. The sound is consistent. The single six likes it okay.
I picked up a case of their MATCH (standard velocity) and it shoots well above its price point. Not Eley but darn good ammo for 1/3 the price.
I've gone through a couple of cases of the cheap Std Vel, every bit the equal of CCI SV IMO. Very accurate and uniform velocities. Remington junk is just that, junk!
What they said above. I like the standard velocity that says Eley Primed on the boxes. Seems to be near CCI SV. The copper clad stuff is equal to the federal bulk packs. Still like Automatch or CCI for high velocity stuff.
Why doesn't anyone post targets as proof of this ammo's performance?
Is this just a subjective opinion thread without any weight?
This was at only 25m but also consider open sights and less than brand new eyes.
https://i.postimg.cc/JzHTJ01d/Aguila...0-20-511-2.jpg
That's ten shots.
I just fired an ARA factory class target for score during a practice session last week using Aguila rifle march ammo. I shot a 2250. Of the 25 rounds fired, only two were outside of a 3/4 inch group at 50 yards. With those two shots in the center, the score would have been 2400.
It isn't Eley Tennex(2400 score fired the same day) quality but it didn't cost anywhere near as much either. It is excellent practice ammo.
As far as the other varieties Aguila makes, they go bang and are as accurate as needed for the intended use in my rifles.
I throw all my targets away. Never have kept them. All data I need is in my head.
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Originally Posted by bangerjim
Who needs to keep'em?
There's a camera in just about every Americans pocket older than about 10.
I might be a little bit older than 10. [smilie=1:
I luckily found some old targets, as water damaged as they were they gave me some useful information. And they were fun to find. I do like to scan them so I can view them at will and in their appropriate places if and when I get a round to actually doing it.
Those targets allow me to compete with myself.
A picture of a target. I can shoot a target at 10 yards and say it is 100 yards? I have had excellent results with Aquila over the years. More accurate than most of the bulk-packed high speed stuff that was available cheap. I prefer their sub-sonic hp's for bunny hunting. Bought a case of CMP standard velocity and found it very accurate, pleasant to shoot and inexpensive compared to the 'fancy' brands - Eley, RWS, Wolf, SK..... Oh, I don't carry a phone with a camera in my pocket. In much of the Rocky Mountain West they are fragile expensive unreliable doodads though I guess you could take pictures of your broken leg DON'T BREAK YOUR LEG WHEN ALONE AND OUT OF CELL SERVICE, you can't call 911 to save you in many places, very Interstate highway dependent.
The Aguilla .22 brass is slightly softer and seems to be about the same hardness as the older copper .22 cases, and that would be reason enough for me to keep it on hand for the older guns with weak springs, as they fire the stuff well even if they might have a lot of misfires with modern ammo. I think that it helps with ignition consistency in guns that don't have deficient springs as well, but that's speculation.
Beyond that, I've found the ammo to be fairly accurate compared to comparably priced offerings from other manufacturers. Overall I have no complaints about Aguilla ammo, and some of the stuff they offer is really interesting like the 60 grain SSS, Colibri and Super Colibri ammo. The Super Colibri is very accurate through an old german .22 that I have that's chambered for .22 long (not LR) and has about 1-20 twist (I think it's actually 1 turn in 500mm).
Overall I have been pleased with their ammo.
I have some Aguila Super Extra 40gr RN. I went for them because of the round nose, thinking that for target RN can only be better than or equal to HP. They are 'standard velocity' which is fine as sometimes standard velocity is subsonic. Sometimes. This stuff is 1,130fps which is not exactly subsonic. It might be fine for 25m shooting but what would it be like at 50? Well, I'll try them and see how they do.
Found another Aguila target. Subsonic HP 25m open sights.
https://i.postimg.cc/K8mmhT8X/18-10-...ila-sub-HP.jpg
I don't think I can aim better than that. There's another shot aimed at the wrong target below this one that would lie within this group.
For some reason I went and bought more Super Extra's when I should have been buying the subsonic HP. I'll just have to go back and get some.
My experience is the rims are to soft and jam up my Smith 617 before I can run the full cylinder.
I saw a 137 fps loss of velocity testing some 'Federal Target Grade' bulk pack.Quote:
Originally Posted by 303Guy
At the muzzle it was 1,217 fps & at the 50 yard target backstop (actually about 49 yards) it was 1,080.
I don't know what the speed of sound would be here where I live at 2,200' ASL, prolly close to sea level but this ammo appeared to start above the speed of sound and get there below the speed of sound...could that have added to their poor performance?
https://i.imgur.com/8l2FVpF.jpg
I can't say, I was new to using that 'peep & globe' so you could prolly hang half the error on me at least.
It would be interesting to see a thread of 'empirical evidence' regarding this speed transition and it's effect on the groups.
Look at what the rifle is capable of above the speed of sound and then look at groups where we know the bullet dropped back through the speed of sound and went sub-sonic.
Look up "transonic bullet instability" for lots and lots of reading material about why that transition point is less than ideal for best accuracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by OS OK
I understand the dynamics...just never saw any target pictures of 'groups' disturbed by the transition or ever knew any numbers before and after the transition.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoZombies
thanks...charlie
Here is some data from manufactures specs. The ballistic coefficient for the Norma match can be used in nearly any ballistic calculator to give an idea what to expect. It would probably be a pretty close approximation for nearly any 22 bullet with the possible exception of the light bullets used in the hypervelocity rounds.
Nominal speed of sound is 1125fps or a close approximation. I don't think it changes a lot for altitude. It changes more for temperature that air pressure. Here is a link to a speed of sound calculator. https://www.weather.gov/epz/wxcalc_speedofsound
Norma Match
Specifications and Features:
• Muzzle Velocity @ 0 yards: 1066fps
• Muzzle Velocity @ 50yards: 1025fps
• Muzzle Velocity @100 yards: 930fps
• Ballistic Coefficient 0.15
Mini Mags
Velocity in feet per second
Muzzle 50 Y 75 Y 100 Y
1235 1092 1040 998
does aguila sell components like pistol primers?
The Aguila rimfire work ok in my Smith 617 for me, but mine is a six shot cylinder.
Since the thread was started, I have tried Aguila 40gr sub-sonic solid points and I like them. They stand up to Eley Club and GECO Match.
I noticed the FleetFarm has them in their sale flyer this week. Check FF in BD.
I've used the standard velocity in my Marlin model 60 with no real problems and decent accuracy but the seemed to be dirtier than most. For the price I'm not complaining.