If you were going to buy a new bolt action in 270 Win which would you pick ? And why over the rest ?
A) CZ 557
B) Browning X - bolt
C) Win 70
D ) Weatherby Vanguard S2 / Howa 1500
E) Tikka T3X
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If you were going to buy a new bolt action in 270 Win which would you pick ? And why over the rest ?
A) CZ 557
B) Browning X - bolt
C) Win 70
D ) Weatherby Vanguard S2 / Howa 1500
E) Tikka T3X
Tikka!
The Tikka will have the smoothers action and they tend to shoot very well.
For me it would be a hard decision, CZ or the Vanguard/Howa. Depending on calibre wanted, that could make the decision for me. Have 4 Vanguards that are excellent shooters, calibres from .270 to .223. Very little to ask for improvement. All my CZ's are 550's, but a couple of friends have bought the 557's and had excellent results. The current Model 70's leave me cold, Portugese made I believe, a cheezy metal box trigger, not something I want in a Model 70. While I've liked all the Tikka's I've shot over the years, I just don't warm up to them, and the $70 all plastic magazines leave me kinda gasping. But they do work! I also buy walnut, not plastic, and most Tikka's I see today are plastic. Again a personal thing.
The only thing wrong with the Tikka in my opinion is the boot heel reverse angle recoil pad. It matters on .270 on up cartridges from the bench. I’ve tried all kinds of bolt actions over the years, but The Tikka is my favorite. Light, ergonomic, smooth action and scary accurate with a real trigger. The 3 shot magazine is plastic; but it is also flawless.
Another vote for Tikka. Light, great trigger, and accurate.
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Win 70, but honestly the mix there is purely going to be either a personal preference or the decision will be price based once you get them compared.
From your list, Vanguard. But also consider the Winchester XPR. Not only does CDNN sell them for a really good price (1/2 what a local sporting goods dealer wants), but Dave Petzal of Field and Stream (Google "Gun Nuts") raves about them. I bought an XPR 30-06 last November that only cost me $275 after Winchester's $75 rebate and included a Weaver 3-9X scope. It was going to be a "truck gun" until I shot it. Darned thing interlocked bullets at 100 meters off shooting bags.
I have a Tikka T3 that shoots any bullet I feed it very well. But a 270 in a Tikka Light will kick quickly and sharply. Mine is a 6.5X55. In my job as a range safety officer, I've seen CZ's shoot very well. and they are a bit heavier than the Tikka Light, so the recoil is more pleasant.
Handle them all. Pick the one whose stock puts the scope in alignment with your eye without searching for it. Just like a shotgun that fits.
I bought a Tikka T3 Hunter on closeout when the T3X's were coming out . 6.5 X 55 SE . Upgraded recoil lug , pillared & Devcon bedded stock . I too am not enamored with the plastic parts & will likely replace them over time . Shame that Win 70 has slipped along with Rem 700 . The Howa / Vanguard in a decent stock ( non-tupperware ) rather wood or composite will get a good look . Browning ?? wonder if they feed from a clip like the A-bolt . CZ looks handsome & if they shoot as well would get the nod most likely .
Winchester M70 Featherweight. That is one of the prettiest rifles I've seen. I've got 3 M70's and everyone of them is a shooter. I also prefer the 3 position safety.
Tikka actions are light and smooth
CZs with hand lapped barrels and smooth actions. M70s with 3 position safeties, push or controlled round feeds, jeweled bolts. These are where its at for me. Purely they way they make me feel when I have mine in my hands. They also just function and function well.
The M70 was my first and only centerfire bolt Ive owned, but shot many others. Had an RO interested in my cast loads so I let him shoot my it. He came away with a different view. He was my age, mid 30's, just out of the Army, said it was the only rifle that ran smoothly. Never a catch, slick throw. Put him behind my CZ rimfire and he went nuts over that too. To this day, if he's at the range and I have either rifle, I ask him to shoot. He never turns me down.
Winchester M70 Featherweight. I don't know about the new ones, but the 1993 controlled round feed 30-06 I have is the slickest action I have in the safe.
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Originally Posted by Rgmcfarland
A Model 70 Featherweight in .270 is a veritable magic wand - and it's the only one of the choices that's made in America by Americans...……..
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My buddy has a .270 Tikka and it is very nice. It ticks him off that my $215 .308 T/C Compass will outshoot it. But I use handloads and he shoots factory. Might be the nut behind the trigger too...LOL.
I would get the Tikka, but for a hunting rig, just get what fits you the best.
BTW. I bought the Compass to get a lighter rifle than the M70 Coyote I was using. It was cheap, and I do not care if it gets wet or scratched in the woods. Nice that is shoots too! Hunting load below is its best groups with 165 gr GameKings, but consistently MOA
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tikka smooth and easy adjustable trigger.
Since October 2007, the Winchester Model 70 Featherweight has been produced by the Belgian company FN Herstal. The grimaces of history – an American cult carbine manufactured by a European company.Quote:
Originally Posted by pietro
If the Winchester Model 70 was still US made that would have been my recommendation. It by far the best looking and i am a huge pre-64 Model 70 fan so I a bias towards the Model 70 but of the list the Tikka is the smoothest action and they tend to hold an accuracy edge.
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Originally Posted by M-Tecs
As of 2012, new Winchester Model 70 rifles were being made by FN Herstal in Columbia, South Carolina. - which happens to be in the USA....
Click & scroll: https://www.winchesterguns.com/suppo...ufactured.html
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The South Carolina post 2012 " pre 64" rifles are a fitting continuation of the line. They may be the ONLY Winchester made "over here".
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Only thing I am seeing in your link is that they made them in the US for a couple of years after 2006. Not seeing any recent US production.Quote:
Originally Posted by pietro
https://www.winchesterguns.com/suppo...ufactured.html
Winchester Model 70.
It is no secret that Winchester Repeating Arms is part of the greater Herstal Group, with factories all around the world. The best factories are used for each model. Assembly and production of Model 70s have been shifted to our Viana, Portugal plant as indicated on the barrel inscription. Earlier production of USA-made guns is marked as such. For the first seventy years, production was in New Haven, Connecticut, the factory that closed in 2006. After 2006, a number of Model 70 bolt action rifles were produced at a Herstal Group factory (FNM) in South Carolina, U.S.A. over several years.
Production was then moved to our factory in Viana, Portugal -- a factory which was already part of the Herstal Group (our parent company). Generally, today, key parts are likely sourced worldwide with the rifle made and assembled in Portugal.
The "Made in USA" question.
Some hunters and shooters have reasons for purchasing only Made In USA firearms. Some hunters only revere "Pre-64" Model 70s. We understand. But it would be incorrect to base your decision whether to buy a new Model 70 made at our Portugal plant due to a fear of poor performance. Model 70s made and/or assembled in Portugal have stellar quality, accuracy and overall performance that matches or exceeds any production Model 70s ever in our history.
None of them, not in 270 win for sure. needs to be at least 50 yrs. old with real wood .
Its been a couple of decades since I bought a brand new bolt action sporting rifle; and I really am not enamored with the .270 Win which is kind of weird because I like the .25-06, 6.5-06 and dearly love the .30-06 and .270 Weatherby.
From your list I would go with the Howa/ Weatherby or the CZ, Winchester Model 70 stocks just don't fit me right.
Robert
well.....I love the way Tikka's shoot and they run smooth as glass, but you said a T3x. If it was a Tikka Hunter with a real wooden stock it would be a coin flip between it and a Winchester M70 FWT walnut. The Winchester profile is what a rifle should look like IMHO. They are both scary accurate and feed like a hungry calf. Not that the others are bad but I am an old fart and traditional stocks appeal to me. Remember this, when you are shouldering one at your dealer, you will probably have more cloths on when you are hunting with it.
For a budget rifle the Winchester XPR is a great choice, but on your list the Winchester M70 or Tikka would be my choice. I probably would spend a little more and get a Kimber.
if your talking Winchester model 70s then that would be my pick. The vanguards ive owned and shot have all been fantastic shooters too. I don't have any experience with the others but have heard good things on all of them. Id say look at your budget and handle them all and see which one you like the look of and the feel of and go for it. You pretty much cant make a mistake with that line up.
I'd have to go with the Mod. 70 Featherweight, of those you mentioned. I'm in the market for a 270 to replace my Featherweight I gave to a friend. It WILL be an early 1950's Mannlicher/Schoenauer, the real "smoothest action ever made."
You meant to say Krag, didn't you???[emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by sharps4590
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I would vote for the Tikka... I own and shoot one and it's the most boring rifle I've ever owned. It just hits where I aim, every time. Load 'workup' was equally as boring. I started with a 'proven' load using 4350 and 165s....went 1-2 grains either side of it, didn't seem to matter much. The dang thing just shoots.
Of your listed choices, I have the browning, model 70 and tikka, multiple calibers of each. You get a lot for your money with a tikka, they are my preferred rifle now.
Remington 700...OOPS! Not on your list.
it should be! To me the best buy I a rifle is an sps Remington 700Quote:
Originally Posted by pertnear
brand new.....cz
old new.......win pre 64 m70
i've owned a few rem m700(adl,bdl and cdl) and they aren't for me. i own one rem m7 with a 18 1/2" barrel chambered in a 7-08. it shoots great and it feels like nuthin on a long hunt.
C) Win 70
either a Featherweight or Super Grade model
model 70 bolt and their new trigger's are phenomenal
have had and seen different bolts,firing pins, freeze up in cold weather
never a problem with a m70 just take the firing pin out and dry good to go
besides the Rifleman's rifle
Have owned three M70's, a pre-war 30/06, a custom pre-64 in 243 w/heavy SS barrel and a South Carolina made FWT in 243. As I got older the weight of the first two became a problem and sold them. The FWT has the MOA trigger and it is the equal of the original. The action on the FWT is the slickest I have ever used, even beat out my old Krag. Win advertised it as MOA for first three shots and they did NOT lie. With cast will do under two MOA.
I like the old wby mags like 378 based cases there top of the line that said I'll take the model 70 what you get for the price is good better than remington by alot
Tikka, second CZ- this from pre64 m70 fan.