Have new Henry single shots in 308 and 30-30!!
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Have new Henry single shots in 308 and 30-30!!
I use Baffalo Bore which is a nock off equavalent to 5744 at half the price. Does well in my 30-30 with a 180g bullet.
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Originally Posted by Rcmaveric
150 gr cast or plated with 5744 works well in my 30-30 out to 150 meters. but i am moving on to shooter worlds buffalo rifle powder. better prices and works the same. got to the shooters world site to see all the info.
https://shootersworldpowder.com/bulk-propellant/#burn
Bufflo Bore is Shooters world powder. Their powders are rebranded Lovex Powders. Buffalo Bore is Lovex D060-1.
https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/prod...rifle-d060-01/
I find it for 22 to 24 bucks a pound locally at the gun showes.
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If you haven't yet, pick the Lyman cast manuals, the last couple of editions. There are much better powders for 30 caliber cast loads.
Considerably less expensive powders are out there than 5744 that will shoot as well or better. Save the 5744 for those BIG bore/odd ball cases where 5744 shines.
I save 5744 for use in the Nitro Express cartridges where there is almost no load data and Accurate has conveniently provided a formula to use it in any cartridge without data.
I've used 5744 it shot well with no gas check. I prefer a gas check . 22gr 170 gr boolit https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...73ef977bf7.jpg
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I've been using it in a couple of .30-06 rifles in matches, 18.7grs with a 175gr. bullet, mild and accurate, but many other powders are much cheaper and will shoot just as well. I have the Buffalo Bore powder, but have not yet done a side by side comparison.
I have used a lot of 5744 in 30-30. It is a great powder for that. Check your load manuals, but my go to load on the Lyman 173 fn is 19/19.5 in four different guns. I have had some success with 15.0/15.5 for light loads. Also I do use a Dacron filler as per Larry Gibson's instructions.
I may have to try the Shooters World powder, 5744 around here is $35/lb and up.
Tony
I've used 5744 with good cast bullet accuracy results in the .30-30, .30-40, .308, and .30-06. No filler.
Thanks guys, will try the buffalo bore powder if I can find some at a gunshow. Never heard of it before!!
Never used any 5744 because Unique, Red Dot, 3031 and 4895 told me not to.
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I have been loading the Lee C309-170F in my 300 Win Mag with 26gr of 5744. It's a soft shooting and scary accurate load. It works really, really well in that caliber. 5744 is one of my favorite CB powders, next to the discontinued SR4759.
A5744 is my single go to cast powder for all my milsups . Cost is high , but it really is easy to use . Minimal looking around for loads that group.
Works great in all my milsurps but, leaves alot of residue in the barrel. But then it performs well or excellent with cartridges in the 30 cal group. On second thought it works with everything from 223 to 45/70. Am working on a load for 223 with NOE 225-55 MX that is hovering around 2" at 100 yds. Only at around 1800 fps and alot of unburned kernels in barrel. Hoping a little more pressure will alleviate the unburned powder. As to your 30 caliber, 5744 is very flexible. Don't be scared to go .2 or .3 grns in your ladder testing to find the load that your gun likes. But go slow when you get to max loads.
Can't wait to try the Buffalo Bore powder for replacement for 5744. 5744 is priced out of reach for me now in my fixed income situation.
Shoots great in a .357 max with 200 grain cast.
My wife killed a deer this year using her Marlin .30-30 loaded with powder coated Lyman 31141 over 20.5 grains of AA5744.
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I hope you have better luck at getting rid of un-burned 5744 kernels, in a dozen different cartridges I have always had kernels left in the bore. Just got in the habit of barrel pointing down and blowing in the barrel after each shot to clear the chamber. I got tired of dented cases.Quote:
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Done!
Best cast group I have ever shot was with a Lee 155 2R GC sized to .310 on top of 20.0g of 5744. 3 shots @.652 inch at 200yds out of a FN SPR 308 win. 20in barrel.
Wow, having a tough time trying to locate some 5744 in my area. Will look some more to try to alleviate some hazmat fees.
I still have 14+ pounds of SR4759
No need to try 5744 yet.
Mike Venturino uses 5744 in .30 cal rifles. Check his articles in Handloader magazine. I don't have the issues handy or I would post them.
Late to this thread, but Mike Venturino is correct about the "goodness of fit" between 5744 and .30cal. rifles, metrics included. Furthermore, I've used it for cast bullet loads in all of my rifles (.243Win. - .45-70Gov't.) and have been extremely happy with the results. I.e., excellent accuracy and lower standard deviations (velocity) across the board. The only downsides I can see are the availability and cost of 5744. Btw, it's a tad faster than IMR 4198, meaning where I'd use no more than 24gr. 4198 in my .30-06 with CB's from 160gr. - 203gr., I'd drop down to 20.5gr. or 21.5gr. with 5744.