Any yall ever rechambered a No.1 to a larger 9.3 cartridge case?
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Any yall ever rechambered a No.1 to a larger 9.3 cartridge case?
Why? Isn't the 9.3x74R large enough? What case would you use?
Good questions to add to mine.
I saw a #1 for sale at a show that was rechambered for a odd ball 9x ??, that was a rimless case
and done on a 375H&H so it must have been .375 cal.
I can't imagine why I would need a more potent 9.3 than the 9.3x74, especially a wildcat, but I suppose that it could be done. I've taken several elk with mine and find it quite satisfactory. Perhaps my reasoning is colored by the fact that If I think I need more I can step up to several rifles of greater power.
.366 H&H? What case would be long enough to clean up the chamber?
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Many years back I worked on re-barreling a #1 in 577 Nitro. Someone had already converted it and I was just installing a new longer barrel. The action had to be opened up to except the larger rim and the top of the breach was also cut down. It was a little scary to look at, the top of the rim could be seen when the breach was closed. I was offered a chance to test fire it but I declined. At that time the cartridge was $34.50 each. I'm working on one now in 50-70 which also required the action to be opened up a little to clear the rim. My thoughts are, if you like lots of recoil, go for it. I still have memories of touching a #1 off that was chambered in 450 -3 1/4 nitro. It had a 30" barrel and was not a light gun but it sure hurt.
I have a #1 in 50-70. Loaded with 850gr boolits I designed for the 50 bmg, it is really accurate, will cloverleaf 3 @100yds. Unfortunately, all I can stand is 3 shots, the recoil is so bad. Older now, not shooting those again!!
If you have a big bore that hurts, try stuffing it with trailboss. Lots more fun then. But.......back to your question, you could look at maybe a 50-140. I decided a few years ago that if my 9.3x74 was not sufficient, I would pull out the 450/400 3" nitro. If that didnt work I would start running.lol
If you have a big bore that hurts, try stuffing it with trailboss. Lots more fun then. But.......back to your question, you could look at maybe a 50-140. I decided a few years ago that if my 9.3x74 was not sufficient, I would pull out the 450/400 3" nitro. If that didnt work I would start running.lol
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I'm probably never going to shoot it much with anything but slow trickled FFg and paper patches any how.
But looking at the case configuration got me to wondering.
Once upon a time my .375 Winchester No.3 became a .375 H&H.
I made a big mistake in not trying it with black and patching.
I've batted around the idea of rechambering one to 360 No.2 Nitro Express.
It's pretty much a 450/400 3" case necked to .366" shooting a 320gr bullet. I have a double in that chambering and it is a very impressive cartridge.
The stock 9.3x74R barrels are pretty short though, a 26" or 28" barrel would give the rifle the proper look IMO.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no expert on the cartridge, but cant' the 9.3x74 be loaded a shade hotter than conventional data because it is in a #1 and not a drilling of some sort?
Also, seemed to me that it had a LOT of body taper, perhaps a 9.3x74 A.I.? I'd not think case strength would be an issue as St. Elmer did his .338x74 Keith on a #1 years ago, and, well, he didn't blow it up anyway.
Just thinking out loud. It's likely better the way it is for cast. Likely far better the way it is for cast and black powder. Though with smokeless and jacketed, it could be a whole nother sort of hammer.......on both ends.......
I once was the proud owner of a Number 1 Ruger in 416 Rigby that kicked the living crapola out of me. It was not fun with full house loads at all. Nice rifle with great figure I had it engraved but sold it. OUCH
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We shoot a 1885 Winchester Repro in 375 H&H with 300 and 335 GC at 2300 fps and find it rather fun to shoot. I seriously do not think there are too many critters going to absorb many of those slugs and mossy down the trail very far.
And your 9.3x74 is very much able to equal those parameters. Reason we got the 375 H&H is due to us having a box full of caliber 38 molds. NOE has a pretty good selection of 9.3 heavy slugs that will eradicate most known critters still walking about. Plus with just some typing paper wraps you can go to full power crushers.
Mike in Peru
.360 n.e. #2
When I was a kid I saw a guy on TV blow himself up with dynamite.
I don't remember if he did for fun or he did it for a living.
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Nobody had to hold his beer.
More than once.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hickory
Yes, more than once!Quote:
Originally Posted by sharps4590
I saw one at a gun show in Belton, TX a few years ago re-barreled to 600 Nitro Express!
Managed to get a #366408 a while back.
Got some cast to try with FFg.
The 9.3x74R is longer (2.941") than the 375 H&H (2.850").Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas by God
His was a short career, huh. I expect fringe benefits probably never mattered much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hickory
You'll want to size a cast to at least .369 or .370, I got a custom .369 sizer for my luber.
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Here is a pic of two wildcat rounds, both 44 cal. the one on the left is on a blown out 9.3 X 74 R and the other is on a blown out 375 H&H as you can see not much difference.
Jedman
Not sure what your intended use is for your Ruger that you want more than the 9.3x74R now produces? But in almost every case you'll find that reworking your present #1 is more expensive than simply selling it, and using the funds toward buying another in the caliber you really want. In some cases you might even find you'll pocket some cash when the dust settles. And you'll have a gun worth more if it's all factory original, with correct caliber markings, etc.
The No.1 is very collectable and in this caliber should sell quickly. Ruger now make the No.1 on a limitedQuote:
Originally Posted by marlinman93
production basis and in limited calibers, collectors grab them quickly.
Just look at the prices on Gun International.
I still occasionally think about selling it. Haven't yet. :)
There was one floating around the Cal. gun shows years ago in 460 Wea. The owner claimed it had been only fired 3 times I assumed he was the 3rd owner.
9.3x74R is usually enough. I only unlimber the big guns for semi-truck season.
I was tickled to death when Ruger announced they were going to offer the #1 in 9.3x74R as that meant the brass was going to be available again easily! I own a Ballard Pacific in .40-85 Ballard Everlasting, and the 9.3x74R is the perfect donor brass for it! All I have to do is expand the necks to .410" and load them up with my charge and bullet. The length is perfect, and the first firing finishes blowing the case out and they're good to go!
Not long after this case became available Nosler sent me a sale notice for the brass! It was 25 pcs. for $14 on the same, and I bought 300 pcs. A great bargain!
You could always trade off the 9.3x74R and get a 405Win?? Or a 416 Rem.
With the availability currently of .405 ammo, I would not choose any gun in .405 now. When Ruger first brought out their #1 in .405 it was fantastic as Hornady, Nosler, and Norma immediately offered ammo, and brass. But not too many years ago it all dried up, and the remaining brass and ammo went crazy high, and then nonexistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockrat
I bought everything in the way of brass I could find and afford to feed my .40-70SS and .40-63 Ballard rifles. I'm set for the 7 rifles I have in these two cartridges, but I sure wouldn't start out now with supplies almost unavailable, or crazy high when some appears.
Build the 9.3X74R! It's your gun, make it the way that YOU want!
I have loaded my Ruger No.1 9.3x74R to 375 H&H performance. Recoil is brutal and is not needed. Standard loads kill feral hogs very easily out to 250 yds.
In doing dimensional checks before ordering another mold I found that for my No.1 the chamber allows a 0.366" boolit to extend 0.27" past the case mouth before encountering a hard stop. And, a 0.359" boolit (0.006" above bore diameter) can extend 0.62" beyond the case mouth encountering no stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Recoil
Does this reflect the machining on your chamber?
Came back and corrected the dimension to the hard stop.
If you want to have something different, you could do a barrel for this, like my buddy did, he ordered the 45 rimmed base case blanks from Hornady and then had Clymer make a reamer to actually fit the case blanks. The idea came from this case, the Quigly round, except instead of 2 7/8" case length it is 3 1/8 and has 1/2 grain more water capacity. He used a smooth turned barrel blank, 30" long. It does kill a deer with a 400 grain...
One sold on GunBroker yesterday in 9.3×74r for in the mid $1,550. I watched it for a little while.
I have 2 9.3 ×74r. The first is a 7×57 rolling block rebarreled with a Green Mountain. 338 #4 barrel rebore in 9.3 and chambered in 9.3×74r. The other a Sabatti S×S.
If I need more than that I have 375H&H and 458 Win #1.
Bill
It does kind of remind me of the No.3 Ruger .375 Winchester that was rechambered to H&H.