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I have a .270W midland gun co bolt action rifle. I am looking for a bolt for it as the ejection lugs are broke off the bolt body. Seems to be a Mauser 98 action with the side safty. Has BNP and crown stamp on barrel and importer Jana denver col. any info on a replacement bolt would be most helpful. This was my late mothers gun and would like to teach(and pass it on to) my daughter to hunt with when she is old enough. Thanks Kelly
Let's see a picture of the bolt you have.
Looks Mauser to me, going to be some work involved. Confirm 98 and then find body, confirm headspace then transfer handle and attach or do new, maybe find one already done (see headspace check above). Bolts can be had here and there but if you cannot do work probably looking at a couple bills to roll into end zone. The first thing I would do is confirm action make/model (what it started life as) being starting point. Then on with the hunt, might be a fun project of procurement to completion being an educational exercise with the daughter finding, fixing, firing!
Weren't they assembled by Parker Hale on Santa Barbara actions? I do remember a hybrid "Spauser" they offered thru Navy Arms but I've never seen one in the flesh.
Parker Hale bought Midland in the 60's. This could pre-date that. It is a Mauser action but still need to see a pic to tell what is wrong here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas by God
Ah! I see he's added pics up at the top.
This is what you need.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/681787929
A gunsmith can take the required parts from a bolt like this and fit to your rifle. Headspace will likely need to be adjusted. However, don't buy a bolt from gunbroker prior to discussing this with a competent gunsmith. Also, you will need to obtain some critical dimensions from the seller prior to purchase.
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I've never heard of any portion of a Mauser bolt referred to as "ejection lug".
Mauser bolts have 2 locking lugs at the front & M98's have a 3rd "safety" lug back near the bolt handle stem.
In those pics, that FN Mauser (type) bolt looks normal to me - exactly what are you talking about ?
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Pietro look at the bolt face of the bolt in the link I provided and compare to his.
Perhaps, he should take it to a gunsmith and have it looked at ? Clear he is a novice where type 98 Mauser actions are concerned.
It appears the lower "tit" on the extractor guide is missing. It might (?) impede function but is not a safety issue nor is it a "lug".
This is what it should look like:
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Given that I just bought this for $535 TMD (no salt Safari 30-06), I would not bother with a cobbeled up 98 sporter.
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Might even be able to build up that tit with weld and reshape it. I'd just try it and see how it works without it.
Wonder how it broke? Perhaps it was dropped? Perhaps it is an indicator that the metal or the heat treatment of the bolt is defective. If so, it's probably a good idea to replace the bolt.
If you do replace the bolt, have it checked with headspace gauges to see if the fit of a standard case to your chamber with the new bolt is correct.
My info is that Midland Gun made a bunch of receivers to use up a large pile of surplus M98 and Springfield bolts. I have one with a Springfield bolt, already D&T. Nearly as I can tell from pics there is nothing wrong with your M98 bolt. The ejector is a flat piece of metal backed by a flat spring found on the left rear of the receiver. Check this and let us know what you find. GW
Incidentally mine uses a Mauser trigger and bottom metal. I would not recommend using these receivers for anything more that '06 or .270 and no "hot" loads as too little is known about these receivers. GW
I would just make or get a few dummy rounds. Then see how the dummy rounds work in the action. If it feeds loads and extracts OK then there is nothing to do. If it is that small piece broken off of the bolt face edge then it should not be a issue. It is not a safety issue. The problem would be if any of the locking lugs are broken, then that bolt would need replacing.
A mauser receiver with an 03 bolt is a disaster waiting to happen.
Junk it !
How did you come up with that idea. The action is a Santa Barbara commercial mauser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldon
Eldon, FWIW, a '98 receiver will not accept an '03 Springfield bolt as the third lug won't pass under the rear bridge. This one is factory marked M98/03 made by Midland and imported by Federal Ordinance in El Monte, Ca. As I said, they made receivers to use up a pile of Mauser and Springfield bolts. GW
The OP's receiver has a Mauser bolt.
These are the "Spausers" I read about and saw the ads in SGN. The OP'S bolt does seem to be regular 98 but the pics are not the best. It's hard to tell exactly what's wrong with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatwhiskers
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gun feeds and fires fine, wont eject spent round. You have to tip the gun upside down and shake it to and fro to get the spent shell out.
Is the ejector itself missing? It is the part that passes through the slot.
More clearly, the ejector is a stationary steel piece mounted on the action. As the bolt is withdrawn it passes through the slot in the bolt and kicks the case out. If it is not there it would be difficult to envision.
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Originally Posted by foxhole
This is the ejector mechanism - the bolt release & EJ spring surrounds the EJ blade, all located on the outside left side of the (rear) receiver bridge.
http://www.hoosiergunworks.com/image...ejectorbox.jpg
The assembly's removable via unscrewing the bolt release pivot screw.
Replacement parts are available from just about any online Mauser 98 parts vendor.
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My guess. The missing part on the bolt is letting the case drop off the boltface before it gets to the ejector. Need to replace the bolt body. If it were simply the ejector you would have to pull the spent case off the bolt....lot more than just turning the rifle over and shaking it. Just a guess.
Sounds plausible.
Update: first thanks for all the help, got a replacement bolt body, fitted all my bolt pieces into the new body. feeds and ejects good. purchaced a field head space guage and it will not close on it. Took it to the range today, made sure no one else was there, rigged it up to shoot out of my lead sled with a long string with sand bags over the receiver. Failed to fire, upon further inspection firing pin not making contact with primer not even a light strike, using a heavy spring out of a military bolt, firing pin protruds bolt face by a good margin when all apart and slidding it in and out by hand. Anyone have any thoughts? Are there any known variations in 98 firing pins?
There are at least two types of Mauser 98 firing pins. A M48 Yugo won't work in a Gew 98.
Are you certain you assembled the bolt correctly?
Yes, bolt was put together correctly. cocks on close, dry fire and it clicks. with bolt removed from receiver and in the resting position the firing pin is protruding the bolt face by a fair amount. I dont see how it could not be firing. I guess the next step would be how far the firing pin is protruding the bolt face
Cocks on close? Please send us clear pics of the action and old and new bolts. We want to help you get Mama's gun going again!
I had a so called "gunsmith" re-assemble a Mark X bolt that way. Fortunately he was only doing cerakote. I would dis-assemble it and start over.