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Coleman Stove very old 3 burner 426C.
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Official Coleman Stove Image and Repair Thread
Coleman Stove very old 3 burner 426C.
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I switched over to propane several years back for all my stove and lantern needs. This worked very well at deer or elk camp as I could run the stove and a couple of lanterns off of a 5 gal propane bottle. Since moving up here I seldom even take a lantern camping and usually use wood for cooking, so the stuff is basically stored.
When we bought our house there was an old 2 burner Coleman camp stove in the attic. I took it down cleaned it up and it only needed new leather gaskets in the pressure cup and it works great, also found a MSR fuel bottle fits inside alongside the factory tank for double fuel storage for the long hunts, added it to the camping gear and love telling the story of my attic find!
Have an old favorite, large two burner.
It's my brother's, found it @ a garage sale for $5. Been using it for years and the price tag is still on it. Ol' Blue feels right at home on top of that old soldier, think it was made in the '60's.
I have 1 or 2 of the 2 burners here I used for camping and melting lead for cannonballs...They just keep on working !
Rich
My wife and I got one for christmas a while back, we took it out for a camping trip, used it twice and got caught in a rain storm. We went to use it for the next camping adventure and it would not work. I can pump away and it quit pushing fuel out of the nozzle, so it does not work. I had planned to take it on a hunting trip but it was still a no go.
Anyone know these things well enough to help me through what might be worng? I am guessing something in the fuel tank needs cleaned or taken apart, I just didn't find a good diagram for working on it. Help would be appreciated! I know it should work, too many people swear by these things and I like the dual fuel setup, too.
Duke, I picked up a stove EXACTLY like that about 3 years ago on ebay. NIB, $19.00 + shipping, I was shocked! My favorite though is a 2 burner Sears built by Coleman back in the 60's, came painted blue and yellow. My dad swooped it from a garage sale for 50 cents. Gotta love it.
Octabird It has been years since I have worked on one, But the only part I remember buying was the generator itself, the rest you should be able to blow out.
If you are using gasoline as fuel, I'd be popping a 1/2 cup of metho (methalyted spirits) into the fuel tank and trying again or just empty the fuel tank and start again with a small quantity of fuel (less to throw away if it goes wrong). Usually the only part I have found that goes wrong is the generator, but as your's is new, that shouldn't be cactus yet. Try blowing out the pipes, etc. Stand the stove with the burners facing down and taps open so that they can drain out.
That's all I can think of.
I have a small Coleman camp stove (called a Feather I think) which I have had for years as well as a small lantern. I picked up a big ol' two burner similar to the ones above for peanuts at an auction,but the generator was shot, I ordered another, but never got around to fitting it.
These type of stoves have taken a bit of a pounding lately as those cheap Asian stoves with the cheap throwaway canisters have been on the market. These are not a bad product and actually include a piezo lighter built in. There is even a $20 adaptor to use the cheap canisters on the fancy Dan camp stoves. I will start a thread on this stove wityh photos if anyone is interested.
Nothing matches the satisfaction of cranking up a Coleman and cooking up a feed or boiling a brew.
Check out the Classic Camp Stove Forum at Spiritburner.com. You can probably get some help there. Pressurized gas stoves are fairly simple machines and I concur that the generator is likely the issue. If you're using E-10 fuel the ethanol will cause water problems if stored for any time. The gas generator will be the first thing to go. I think you will be able to repait it with little cost and have good stove again.
Simple is Good!
Opps, sorry, that last post was a reply to Octabird's question.
I don't bother using gasoline, a half gallon tin of Coleman fuel lasts a longgggggggggg time and isn't that expensive. It burns real clean and is handy for cleaning small stuff as well. The gasoline (or Gas Eileeeeen as Woody Guthrie pronounced it) burns a bit sooty. I went to a camping store because a lot of hunting friends were using the Coleman Feather Stoves and recommended the Coleman fuel. I asked the guy who ran the camping store (gone now, too hard to compete with the chain stores) and he pulled out a 20ltr (about 5 US Gallons) drum and sold it to me for not much more than gasoline (or petrol as we call it). It was marked Nalgene (dry cleaning fuel, virtually the same and heaps cheaper). Lasted me a long time! I don't use these stoves much now (have to change that) and am working my way through a half gal of Coleman fuel.
When I was a kid coleman fuel was called white gas if bought at a station and was cheaper than gasoline. It is funny how things have changed over the years. The newer colman products are multifuel, maybe the generators have a different seal material in them for use with gas.
You dont have to have a newer "duel fuel" to use gas. I run plain car gas in my stoves and lanterns in the summer and it works great. I do add Stabil to the jug tho and I leave Coleman fuel in them for winter storage.
At over $11/gallon for Coleman fuel I try not to burn any of that. I also have the propane adapter for my 2 and 3 burner stoves they are worth it if you can find one.
Rather than replace the generator I just clean mine. However, you will need access to the carb cleaner in the bucket, the stuff that stinks really bad. It will clean the varnish out after a good soak, the spray stuff wont touch it. I clean all of mine about every 5 years and keeps em like new.
I've never seen the carb cleaner in the bucket in Australia. Seen it plenty times in Popular Mechanics and Popular Science, etc. Boy, they were great mags, do they still sell them?
YUP! "White Gas".Robert
Try some Dawn dishwashing soap instead of carb cleaner,works good.
I frequently visit our local metals recycle yard. So far I have brought home 19 Coleman stoves of all types. Most are two burners of different sizes and I have two three burners, a couple of them use propane.
Cool idea, I must try that, I am a bit of a stove-a-holic!
Check out the folding firebox, amazing idea, great stove. http://foldingfirebox.com/
With all of the prunings from the trees in the garden dried out, I reckon I could do most of our cooking on this baby.I am flat out using the stuff I prune as it is. Waste not, want not.
forgot to mention what I payed for the coleman stoves, .20 per pound. so they were less than $3.00 each.
Gotta love that!
We have 2 of the older 2 burner stoves. One is a very narrow stove. But the other is several inches wider and my wife likes it a lot. But if it's just she and I we usually take the little one.
I dont know what its called for sure, but its a straight metal tube that you screw the little bottle onto.
It goes into the same place as the pump up tank and sticks out the front of the stove.
I just looked it up and its called a propane converter.
This one looks like it will do the job.
David
I have never compared a coleman stove on fuel to one on propane. I did camp with a couple that brought a propane bottle hooked up to a cast iron countertop single burner thing. It lit fast and needed no pumping, but at breakfast we cooked the bacon, eggs, and made toast on the coleman and the water for coffee still hadn't boiled on the propane contraption. I have used a single burner coleman backpacking stove and a firefly and both were very handy. The coleman was a little heavier but could store the fuel inside the stove tank and boiled water very fast and effiently. I have a lot of two burner stoves and two mantle lanterns in my shop as we speak. I never paid over five dollar for any of them at garage sales and most were about three. The generators are the main thing to keep on hand. If you are lucky enough to find one with leather in the pump they can usually be brought back to workable condition by saturating them with three in one oil. I have only replaced a leather when one was used so much it was worn down to no skirt at all then the rubber "leather" was a viable fix. My main problem has been when dirt dobbers build their nest in the burners. You have to take the layers apart and put them in the dishwasher to clean them. Dry them good and put them back together and they are good to go. You learn a lot by simply using them a lot and depending on them to the extent that you have to fix them to cook. I also like cooking with cast iron over coals but that is a different thread altogether.
I just need a propane stove now.....
If you like stoves and camping, you'll love this:
http://www.youtube.com/user/fireboxstove
I had an email conversation with a man at Coleman a few weeks back. I asked if unleaded gasoline would work. Coleman fuel in the 1 gallon can here costs $13.99 a gallon. He said to stay away from the ethanol mix stuff and get pure gasoline. There are a few places in our area that sell it for about $3.75 a gallon. He said it would work fine.
Be careful.
Another interesting alternative;
http://www.biolitestove.com/
Built a 1/2" steal rod frame to carry the weight and smelt lead on my two burner.
Coleman fuel is free so it is a good deal.
I have since seen a review on youtube about the charging performance of the biolite stove, pretty bloody ordinary, not worth worrying about unless you have hours to spare and are prepared to feed considerable amounts of fuel into it. Nexttttttttttttttt!!! haha!
Four Fingers, thanks for posting the link to Firebox. I just received mine. I was looking for something to make shore lunch when I go canoeing. I would not have discovered it on my own, thanks. There is wood debris everywhere along the shore, so fuel will be free, what a neat stove.
The icing is, my wife wanted a Swiss Army knife with a saw blade, so we're both happy.
I'm glad you like it shtur. I bought my late wife an Officer's Model Swiss Army Knife years ago and she was totally stoked. She carried it everywhere in her handbag. I now have it and it is real special. I must get it engraved in her memory.
I finally bit the boolit and bought a Folding Firebox as well. Great bit of kit. I was a bit slow to jump on one as the shipping to Australia was pretty impressive, but now we have an agent here.
As well as hunting trips and motorcycle touring, mine will also see lots of use on my front verandah near the bbq. I have a table set up and eat there a lot. I have several trees which I prune and use the 'sticks' in the fire as kindling. We have a big plastic box on the verandah full of dried prunings in winter so plenty of freebie fuel.
I also sit outside my garage and use it to make a cuppa when I have finished working. Very soothing.
My wife and I still have our 2 burner we bought in 1969. We used it for 2 years for picnics when dating then for a few years camping when we married. After camping we bought land and made a cabin it was used as the stove there for several years until electric lines were installed on our road.
After that it went back to picnic duty until now and is still going. I have used it when all my sisters kids and I hunted and camped and for camping when our own son was growing.
I have replaced the pump leathers 3 times and the rod whatever it is called twice. The only fuel ever used was Coleman fuel, 2 gallons a year in the heavy use years and now 1 lasts for a couple.
You certainly got your money's worth. I also use Coleman Fuel, cheap enough and clean burning.
Question for you stove guys. I have a two burner Coleman stove number 416 I believe, not exactly positive on the number, it works great but it's missing the grating that covers the burners so I'm not able to use it. Do any of you know where I can get one for this stove?