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I am interested in buying a 45 ACP semiautomatic carbine, and have about narrowed it down to either a High Point or JRC. This will be used primarily to hunt feral hogs at night, so I’ll probably put a thermal on it and restrict shots to 100 yds.
Anyone have either of these and can recommend one - or another choice?
TIA,
HW
Ruger has a 45 ACP carbine out now, might be an option as well. I have no experience with pistol caliber carbines, but like you, want one.
Oooh, I like that Ruger LC in 45! I was under the impression they were only making the 9mm version.
HW, the trigger on my HiPoint is awful. No experience with other semiautomatic pistol caliber carbines.
One thing about the HiPoint, you will not worry about getting it beat up a bit. I have heard they have very good customer support.
Love my Hipoint .45 carbine. It is IMO the most accurate of the 4 I have owned. .40sw and a pair of used 9mm's.
With a 2.5 moa red dot it was stacking holes at 100 yards once I had it zero'd. If you do get the HP do not miss picking up a couple of the Red Ball 20 round mags.
2 20 round and 1 10 round mag will put 50 rounds down range in a hurry.
Another question to add to the thread: Is anyone still making such a thing that eats from 1911 magazines?
“Somewhere over the rainbow…”
Here you go. https://mechtechsys.com/ccu-models/1911Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigslug
I love mine in 45acp on a 1911 frame. For Hunting the 45 Super or the 460 Rowland would be my choice.
Mech Tech google it,,,,not a gun until you put a 1911 frame in... a 2min. job Can also use glock frame,XD 1911 and another one frameQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigslug
blow back operated I shot one at a range a friend of a friend had. Very accurate. Can be had in 9mm,10mm and 45. Checked it out Doesn't stay open after last shot is fired Only thing I can negative about it. afish4570
My neighbor has a CCU for the Glock: he is extremely pleased with it.
I have the Mech-Tech in .45 ACP and .460 Rowland both of which use standard 1911 mags. I picked up some 10-rounders that work dependably. The .460 with a 250-grain RNFP boolit is close enough to a .44 mag to not worry about it. Starline makes the brass and load data is available from the Rowland site. Both shoot fine with red dots. I got a couple of inexpensive Charles Daly 1911s, which are now dedicated setups. GF
In 2018 I bought a High Point .45 acp Carbine the gun feeds about everything and is accurate with most of my reloads . When I bought it I thought it would make a great 100 yard pest control at night gun enough energy and not real loud. I scoped it and sighted it for 50 yards it is on at 25&50 yards and good to 70 yards then the cartridge just starts to drop like a rock . So unless I guess real good it is only a 70 yard gun in most usages .
On the plus side my son has a 9mm carbine and one night here he had Coyotes following him around opening up on the with FMJ rounds made them squeal a lot but none were dropped all of them ran off well educated not to get close to people again which makes it harder for me to shoot them!
I am still using my old 180 series Ruger Mini 14 most of the time the .223 shoots flatter as I can get shots as far as 150 yards here .
Macon Armory makes 45 acp uppers .I've had one for years now and it has fed even big hollow points.
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Originally Posted by Bigslug
In another thread a guy posted a conversion kit for the Hipoint to accept 1911 magazines. If I had one in .45acp that is the way I would go. I have a 9mm and am very happy with it. While it is not the prettiest thing, it just works. It also doesn't break the bank buying one.
TNW firearms is making a 1911 magazine version of their aero survival rifle.
Anyone looked at the CMMG carbines - They look like AR's but I think they operate differently
Thanks Don - good to know. I'm smacking my lips at that Ruger platform. They are running $1000 right now but are new to the market in '24 so I'll start watching prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by dverna
My 45 ACP Mech Tech CCU with dedicated LW Timberwolf (G21) lower is fantastic.
I’ve got several ar45s built with Olympic and CMMG barrels and bcgs. If you already have an ar lower or think you might get one eventually build yourself a pcc ar and then get a 223/22lr/blkout upper for it later.
A good suggestion IMO. I nearly went that route when I was looking for a 9mm carbine. i already had an AR so the cost with mags was about $550-600.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baltimoreed
There was a promotion on the HiPoint for $325 with three extra 20 rd mags and went that way.
One issue was I wanted a "tractor gun". Something I could leave in the tractor all the time.
HW, I would look at it the conversions hard if you already have an AR or may get one in the future. It would make neat range toy as well. The question then becomes, "Is there a better hog caliber than a .45ACP in an AR?" A .300 Hammer or .350 Legend seems better for hog hunting unless you intend to add a suppressor. You might regret the limited range of the .45 ACP.
Bear Creek has an AR style as well. https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/45-...lok-rifle.html
Ballistically, a 10mm would fit the bill as well, but if you are already set up for .45 ACP then that's a plus.
This. Although, I'd also consider the 10mm as an option. The AR is quite literally the new Handi Rifle. Want a different caliber? Throw on a different upper...Quote:
Originally Posted by Baltimoreed
Don,Quote:
Originally Posted by dverna
I do have an AR so that is certainly another option.
Reason I like 45 ACP is that I am already set up for the caliber - and I can live with a range of 100yds for what will basically be a "night" hunting gun. I have a .45-70 Marlin if I need more punch.
One thing to research, if you are using a standard AR lower, there is usually some kind of adapter for the mag well to accept pistol mags. I had heard that these were a chore to get lined up correctly.
I went with a New Frontier Armory lower that is cut for Glock mags (yes, it costs 3x as much as a "regular" Anderson lower.
Quite a few different uppers out there to fit said "Glock" lower. and reasonably priced.
New Frontier makes a large lower for 45ACP and 10mm, and a small for 9mm.
Vector makes an adapter to convert a 13rd Glock mag to 28'ish rounds btw.
I like the AR style, you can change around all the parts to make the gun just the way you want it.
And a commonality with my other AR variations.
Mag well adapters for pistol calibers are readily available in multiple calibers and for different magazine styles. With a little design capability they aren't that hard to design and make yourself. Some years ago I made a PCC using an AR lower, a custom made mag well adapter for a PPS 43 magazine, and then a blowback barrelled upper in 7.62X25. Fun project.
For some reason my 16" Mech Tech is way softer shooting than 10" New Frontier AR. Both are 45ACP. Also consider getting some 45 super brass.
I have a Mech Tech in 45ACP, it shoots great, but really shines with Plus P ammo, accurate. I also bought a Bear Creek Arsenal in 45ACP (AR15 Style) and it takes Glock Mags which we know are everywhere.
Both shoot great with Cast, either the Lee 230 TC or Accurate 210 TC.
Another vote for the Mechtech here. I have two. my 45 is a 1st gen from 20 years ago(?) with the ugly steel loop stock...Took it out this past sunday for some grouping and the reshot the load over my Magnetospeed.
200g SWC powder coated over 10.5g of Blue Dot was killing it at 45 yards. Avg Vel was 1288
Same bullet over 12.8g of AA#7 was scorching at 1457 but did not shoot so well in the mechtech but a friend has the new Ruger carbine and it shot VERY well with it.
The Mechtech may not win a beauty contest but they are built like a panzer super tiger. The bolt is a monstrous chunk of steel.
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I love my Hi-Polnt carbine. Same mag as my JHP. Can't go wrong.
High point takes proprietary mags and is fairly low cap and clunky.
I would look at ar-45 lowers and uppers if you wanted more hands on there are several conversions out there you can do. Ar10 mag adapter from rhineland (they sell it as a cetme adapter but they claim it will also fit the ar10)
I'm very likely going to purchase a Ruger LC carbine - I like the look and the brand. Just saving up pennies at this point.
If I had known Ruger was bringing out a 45 ACP carbine I would not have bought the BCA.
Love my Ruger PCC in 9 mm
Love my Ruger pc9. Some people object to the weight but I find it to have a stabilizing effect. Also have a pair of fSR 9 pistol and they share the 17 rd mags. Ruger still makes good stuff
I find the S&W folding 9mm carbine interesting. If it was available in .45, I’d find it irresistible…..
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I have a .45 acp upper with mag adapter for M&P.mags. just ordered a 10mm auto upper. Are M&P 10 mm mags the same dimensions as the .45 acp?
Marlin Camp carbine?
https://www.guns.com/news/2019/06/27...n-camp-carbine
I have a Hi Point .45 carbine, and it's great. The trigger is not great, but you get used to it. Here is a link to the 1911 mag conversion: https://thingmeister.com/products/19...int-45acp-only
You can also DIY modify 1911 mags so you don't need the conversion kit. The good thing about that (besides being free) is that you will still be able to use the factory Hi Point mag. Also, I think you can still use the 1911 mag in a 1911 after modifying it.
I have been pleased with a Vector 45acp UZI that uses 30-round grease gun magazines
I bought an AR9 for myself some time back and built one for my daughter. I had originally wanted a 45acp, and wish I had gone that route, but back when I was looking for mine the only option that was dependable was the CMMG and I was unsure about the system and the money. All that to say, I think that the only way to go is using Glock magazines, the 9s are available up to 32 round and the 45s are less but still the same physical size.