All in the the title ..... did winchester make a 1895 in 45-70????
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All in the the title ..... did winchester make a 1895 in 45-70????
it would require a completely different receiver, the 45-70 would not fit...and at the time they were moving away from the old and the 1895 was a very modern rifle...
30-40, 35 WCF, 303 British, 38-72, 40-82, 405 WCF, 30-03, 30-06, and a handful of 33 WCF and 236 USN.l originally. The 1895 was Browning's answer to offering spitzer bullets in a lever action (so no bullet-primer issues as in the tube magazine offerings). I do find it curious that nearly all of the WCF offerings by Winchester sported round nose bullets with an 1895 call out on the box.
The two black powder offerings were said to be Winchester hedging their bets on the new fangled smokeless cartridges. They still had their very successful 1886 offered in the government cartridge that stuck around quite some time after the 1895 came about.
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Also made in 303 British which is on my bucket list.
You have 2 ? You are my idol.
I picked up this 1895 SRC chambered in 30/40 Krag about a year ago and for a hundred year old carbine it acquits itself well on the range:
5 shots at 100 yards with handloads.
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I would love to find a 1895 SRC chambered in 303 British (at a price that I could afford).
Several years back a customer sent an 1895 takedown in 30-03 to fit two new barrels, one in 40-72 and the other in 405. Had to change the mag box and bolt and make up an extra frame extension. When test firing I tried the 40-72 first and thought is was a nice rifle to shoot. Then I put the 405 barrel on and took it out, that thing hurts.
I have a 1895 in .303 British as well with the ebony forend tip 28" barrel
I dont know hwy, but I want one of these..........
Me two, but not in the .405. Would love to find one in .35WCF.
I have one. It will pound you just as hard as the .405. I also have a 30-40 and a .303. Looking hard for a 38-72 and 40-72
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We have a repro in 405. We shoot our own loads with up to 320 grain cast and at 2200 fps and it is not bad. But then we never fire it off a bench. Cross sticks it the way to fire heavy "Thwappers" in our thinking.
Best route we have seen to get into the hard to find calibers is buy a 30-40 and get it reamed or rebarreled.
think part of the attraction is that it's a lever gun with a box magazine.......with the lines of a 67 mustang......taboo??
Chambered in .30 Gov't, made in 1898-99, it was my very first "deer rifle".
Been hauling it into the woods since I was big enough to carry it.
It shows its age....but still shoots like a new one. :smile:
I have always wanted one chambered in .405 just because Teddy Roosevelt liked his in Africa.
I have a late model Winchester (Miroku) chambered in 405 and it is quite a handful with top end loads.
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Sadly, Hornady has stopped making the brass and mine (my brass) is starting to get a little long in the tooth (had a case head separation a week or so ago).
I don’t take it out as much as I used too (reference the brass situation) but it is fun to shoot when I do as it is exceedingly accurate and well balanced.
It just floats to the shoulder.
Looks like we 405 shooters need to write Starline on a repeated schedule asking them to please consider a run of 405 brass.
I will do so today.
And so I did..... Should there be enough requests they will run us a batch. And when they do I will buy a box of 500 and smile my way along for the rest of my days.
I've been sending Starline requests for 45/75 for several years, never a reply, never any brass, but good luck.
Can't that one be made from 45-70 brass FL sized? Be nice if they ran some .35 Winchester too. Or .577 Snider
Had one of the Browning 1895s for couple of years in .30-06. Very nice rifle, used it on trade for a Browning 1886 Carbine in 45-70.
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I have one of the mid-80s Miroku in .30-06. I put the replica side mount sight on it and generally shoot either Hornady 220 grain RN or a Lee 205 grain RN and I refer to it as my faux .30-40 Krag. GF
A friend at a gun show had one tagged as 3006 but was actually in 30 03. I suspected at the time the 30 03 would be worth considerably more.
I have had a fascination with the 1895 since a very young age. I own/have owned an embarrassing number of them. I have had at least one in each of the originally offered chamberings (except 33 WCF - I've never even seen one). My favourite by far is the 35 WCF - hard hitting, flexible, overlooked and all but forgotten!
My current project is an 80's vintage Browning that I'm trying to get rechambered to 6mm Lee Navy (my original is pretty rough). But trying to find that chamber reamer has proven difficult!
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I also have to say that I completely disagree with Elmer Keith's likening it to a poisoned pup bloating in the sun.....
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.577 snider would be interesting
Here is mine, originally a 30 Govt but reworked to 405 WCF. I have shot factory out of it but prefer to treat it as a 40-72. The 40-72 is plenty for most North American game. I reload with the Lyman 412263 boolit and 28 grains of 5744 powder. Easy on my shoulder but hard on animals.
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I have not read the Sharpe book but I am not aware of the 1895 being chambered for the 33 WCF. Pretty sure the 33 WCF had dimensions similar to the 45-70, so I can not see how it could be done.
Kevin
I had the not so privileged occasion to shoot a 1895 in 405 Winchester. Was watching a member of our gun club shoot it. He noticed me watching and said "want to try it?". Loaded 5 rounds in the magazine and handed me the rifle. Well did shoot all 5 rounds, but never again. Was more fun than I could handle. But I do have a 1895 saddle ring carbine in 30-40 Krag. When the ranges around here finally open up will be trying it out. No collector value, bubba got to it first. Frank
I just bought a 1895 in 30 US. I didn't realize there was such a fan club here.
If I'm not mistaken Teddy took the 30 40 to Africa too.
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Shooters in the 1890s were as interested in history as anyone is now, but there was not a nostalgic bone in their bodies. The idea of “re-enacting” anything back then did not occur to them; the worst thing they could imagine was being considered (by reason of practice or ownership) a “back number” by their fellow shooters.
The new smokeless propellants, jacketed bullets, high intensity loadings and reduced bore sizes was the way of the future, and the large-bores, even loaded with smokeless powders, were, to their way of thinking, headed for the dustbin of history. No forward-thinking shooter back then would have been interested in a “modern rifle” chambered in an obsolete caliber like the .45-70. The 1895 Marlin was about the last hoorah in that direction.
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I did not know this! While my 1895 is a 35 Whelen, I have a 405 in an 1885, I will need to get a request off to Starline also.
Thanks for the heads up
Crash87
Years ago, I had a like new 1895 takedown, lightweight in 30-06 cal., crescent steel buttplate,etc.
That one really smarted to shoot with 180 grain factory level hunting loads.
It went "down the road" . And I continued to hunt with my M86 1/2 mag, 45-70 - 385 gr cast at 1740fps was
easier on the shoulder than the 1895 '06. Of course, I have a shotgun butt Fajen with a Pad on the '86. Heh Heh Heh...
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I’m jealous! Cool rifles
Good luck . I have repeatedly asked them to do the .218 Bee and .25WCF and despite the fact that that they have had untold numbers of requests for both cases they say they have no plans to ever make either . I would imagine the demand for both of these would by far exceed the demand for .405 brass . GB and most of the other online sources have at anytime guns for .25-20 made by Winchester, Marlin, Remington, Savage just to mention the most common manufacturers but Starline still can't see any profit in making the brass . Lots of .218 Bee rifles around too. They could make .218 brass only and those of us who shoot both could make the .25-20 without loosing cases like you do with .32-20 .