Is there a close alternative to Accurate 5744 powder?????
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Is there a close alternative to Accurate 5744 powder?????
Shooting World powder named Cowboy
You most likely know that these days you need to be fortunate to score SR 4759 but it would do you well. A fellow recently posted his liking of Alliant 300 MP. It's about the same burn rate but not nearly the bulk that we enjoy with the fore mentioned powders.
If you can't find SR 4759, then IMR 4198 is close as to burning speed. When I haven't had 4759 in the past, I've used it with success.
Isn't SR4759 discontinued????
What is the difference between Accurate 5744 and XMR5744?????
Accurate 5744 is XMR 5744....one and the same.
That's what i thought.
XMP-5744 (X-truded Metallic Powder) It started out life as MP-5744 surplus powderQuote:
Originally Posted by abunaitoo
Give Reloader 7 a shot.
closest to 5744 is 680/1680 or 4759 (faster burning)
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...rn-rate-chart/
http://www.imrpowder.com/PDF/Burn%20...02015-2016.pdf
https://www.grafs.com/catalog/tech-r...lResourceId/14
http://www.gamaliel.com/images/BurnRatesnov10.pdf
http://www.frfrogspad.com/burnrate.htm
I wouldn't mind trying 5744 but it's $38 a lb at my local Cabela's. Unique is now $28 and that's bad enough, since the last two pounds I bought were $16 and change each. Rel 7 is now $33 from the same source, and I remember seeing it for less than $25 last year. I'm glad we don't have any inflation in this country.
5744 here is $50
Most other powders are $38.
Prices here are crazy.
Reloder 7 or 4227 both work in the same pressure/velocity range as 5744. Your charge will vary. 308 Win, 190 gr boolit, 18-25gr Reloder 7, or 17-20gr 4227 shoot well as examples, What cartridge?
4227 is a sub for the discontinued 4759. Takes a few more grains to give the same velocity. I've been banging steel with it successfully and consistently in 3 bolt action military relics.
Shiloh
Using 5744 for 308 cast boolets.
Seems to be the best powder I've tried so far.
I'm trying I4198 this weekend.
5744 works very well in heavy for caliber loads. It burns very dirty when using light for caliber bullets. Lots of different powders are less expensive than 5744. I like 4227, 2400, Unique and RL7. And yes, Cabela's-Bass Pro is an expensive place to buy powder. Gp
Can't find any Shooters World Cowboy here.
Glad to hear this this is one of my favorite powders for my 150 grain loads for 30-30. I will look for some of those powders.
I've had 5744 and 4227 recommended as close substitutes for the SR4759 that was discontinued. Try the 4227 in place of the 5744, been working fine thus far with my 45-70 loads. Shiloh is right, it will take a couple more grains of 4227 powder for equivalent velocity.
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Lovex D060. Lovex actually make a lot of the Accurate powders. D060 is what accurate market as 5744.
andrew375 is right.
Closest to 5744 is D060. I have both. Mine 5744 (that I bought 10y ago) was made by Lovex. I also read somewhere (Handloader?) that 5744, in its history, was made by 3 different manufacturers. Lovex (Czech) powders here in Europe are the cheapest and are available, meanwhile I can't buy 5744 anymore - and its price (if available ) would be to high.
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I shoot mostly SML. 5744 is available and works very well with recommended Savage ML2 loads. My favorite is the 4759 but I'm hoarding my last 2#. I have found VV - N110, RL7 and H4198 are great replacements. I have come to favor the RL7 as it is also a double base powder and is extremely reliable for my purposes. I do not use 4227 or Little Gun in SML due to the fine grain structure and problems with it migrating through breech plug vent liners. My opinion, others will differ. 10
I have replaced a couple of my 5744 rifle loads with RE-7 with success. Among them are a load for my 338 WM and 30/30.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
Sorry, just noticed the comments on this thread. andrew375 is correct 5744, lovex D060 and shooting world Cowboy are all the same powder as far as I know. Gp
I just checked the Shooters World Propellants web site.
Seems they changed the name of "Cowboy" to "Buffalo Rifle".
At least I think they did.
abuaitoo; That might be. I haven't checked since they first started selling Lovex here as shooters world. I'll look on a couple of sites. Gp
I was just at Shooters World web site. Cowboy is D060 and Accurate 5744 replacement. At $19.99 a pound I'd say that would be the way to go. Right now it's not listed at Midway, Mid-South or Powder Valley so I guess the thing would be just finding some. Gp
I found some Reloader 7 in my stash.
Will try some this weekend, if I get a chance to load some.
Looking over the data for Reloader 7, it sure calls for a lots of powder.
I shoot cast to try and save on powder.
I'll try it anyway.
I wonder why 5744 is so much more expensive than the rest of Accurate's powders. Looks like they are gouging us for extra $'s. Is "cowboy and D060 as bulky as 5744?
abunaitoo,Quote:
Originally Posted by abunaitoo
5744 is the best powder for cast boolits, it was changed a few times with a increase from 10% nitroglycerin and 84% nitrocellulose to 20% nitroglycerin and 78 percent nitrocellulose when it went from MP5744 to the new XMP 5744. The new 5744 still retains the same percentages. If you can find 5744 in bulk that would be the way to go, if not Reloader 7 is most likely your next best choice. Wolfe Publishing Company publishes a very good book called "Propellant Profiles" it is only about powders and a real wealth of information one should have as part of the reloading data on hand. I like 5744 when I am loading ought six rounds with a 210 gr. Lyman cast. I can go from low velocity around high 1800fps to over 2300. You did not mention just what grain 308 boolit you are shooting, hopefully it is one that has a gas check, or you may end up embedding powder grains in the base of you cast boolits. Here is a shot of my loadings of my ought six with 30 grains of 5744.
https://s19.postimg.org/icscmpudf/20151213_072813.jpg
I have that book. It's an old one from, I think, the 90's. Don't remember when I bough it.
Shooting a 160gr. I have a few different 190/200gr molds.
Trying to use as little powder as possible.
Was hoping to use pistol/shotgun powder, but it's not doing what I want.
I'll try Reloader 7, IMR4198, and what ever else I have in the burn range.
We'll see how it goes.
I think you should have stated this in post #1. What bullet (mold) are you loading? What powder did you try? What is your objective with this load?Quote:
Originally Posted by abunaitoo