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I had read of such things and today I saw one in the flesh. Front hand guard gone. Stock had been shaved down. Gas cylinder, operating rod, and trigger group had a shiny chrome finish. A buck horn rear sight was mounted on the barrel. It was truly hideous. Springfield Armory stamp on the heel, and I suspect it may be a re-weld receiver. $600 tag on it at my local gun store. I'm tempted to buy it, just to give it a decent burial.
Or turn it into a BM59?Quote:
Originally Posted by 376Steyr
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Was it one of these horrible abortions?
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That top one is hideous.
It appears it sold for 850.00 CAD
More pics here. https://www.icollector.com/Sporterized-Garand_i47748099
It is interesting what some will do to a rifle/pistol.
The Garand I inherited has a checkered stock with a rubber recoil pad. Father-in-law was in submarines and one of the chiefs did stock work when on cruises. It looks and works well.
yuk ugly. such a waste of $ to a great rifle!!!
Doing what happened to the top one should be illegal, and result in prison time.
It used to be a common thing to grind off sights, stripper clip slots and such in order to mount scopes.
Oak leaves looks nice. The others-no way.
I am pretty sure I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Blasphemy!
Never under stood the word "sporterized" I wonder who invented it. What does screwing up an original design have to do with sport?-- and how is a non-military configuration somehow more "sport" than a military configuration???
I think the term sporting rifle came along with civilian rifles being produced & sold based on the actions of military ones.
They just looked prettier, had a fancy stock, nice bluing instead of being parkerized, etc.
The Mauser 98 made for civilian sales is a good example of a sporting rifle that also has/had a military version.
In the old days, you could get surplus rifles on the cheap and for a few bucks,
and some butchering, make them look sort of 'un-military'.
from 1968 Williams catalog
I started to mention the old Williams catalog.Quote:
Originally Posted by schutzen-jager
The ugly 1911 Swiss got way uglier after sporterizing- like the M1 did.
But Mausers and Arisakas turn out nice.
I wouldn’t mess with an original milsurp nowadays- but in the 1970s and 1980s I sure did.
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I ‘sporterized’ my M1 years ago by adding a rubber buttpad, a lace on cheekpad, slimming the stock and forarm and adding a rear sight scope-mount for my 3x9 Redfield. Killed some whitetails with it but now its back to gi with a Boyds laminate stock. I’ve shot a match with it too. And it all started with a bud giving me a bag of parts and a barrel.
That's way too much for a re-weld unless it comes with certificates and a warranty from the shop that did the work. And even then I think I'd let someone else take the chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by 376Steyr
Ok, I'm not saying these are for everyone but I kinda get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by atfsux
It's like an MRE: Disabuse yourself of the notion that the "Chicken A la King" will taste like what your mother used to make. It is what it is and it has nutritional value.
The pictured rifles may or may not look right but if they're functional and they were made from a pile of parts, at least someone didn't ruin a serviceable Garand.
I remember some gun mag author saying he had a copy of a "How to Book" and a disk grinder......Quote:
Originally Posted by Winger Ed.
Might've been Mike Venturino, but not sure.
Back in the day though, that was for sure the thing to do.
Back in the 50s, surplus rifles were pretty cheap compared to a new one.
Back then, somebody was selling something like 500 rounds of Japanese surplus ammo, and you got a free rifle with it.
I rather doubt it was unissued and packed in grease though.
Back when the .300WinMag hit the street, rather than buy a new one, there was quite a few 03A3s that got bored out for it.
I remember E R Shaw used to offer services to modify a bolt face for Magnums if they fitted one of their barrels for ya.
And I lament on a recurring basis the 3 Swedish Mausers in the safe with Threaded Muzzle and Muzzle Breaks. But they were on sale years ago and I bought them. They are fair shooters.
DO NOT EVEN THINK OF TOUCHING MY GARANDS TO MODIFY!!
Are you sure you lament? They were threaded in their homeland for BFD's to fire wooden bullets and had an issued plastic protector for when not in use. Some had flash units installed post import.
Beat me to it. GAG. WHY mess with a Garand?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gtek
1968 Williams Gunsight Co. - Garand page shown in post # 13 in this thread -Quote:
Originally Posted by WILCO
I restored a 43" date M1 that someone had gotten ahold of with plenty of sandpaper and varnish. No inspector's marks on it. So I bought an untampered butt stock and front hand guard for $150 total outlay. My cousin sold the old varnished and tarted up stock at a flea market for $150.
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When I was issued an M14 the stock was not finished. We were handed a piece of sandpaper and a small bottle of oil to finish the stock. Most just smoothed it a bit and slathered on the oil for an 'arsenal' type finish. Another guy and I sanded it a bit more and ended up with more of a 'sporter' type finish like in the post above. Yep, in the field it got 'dinged' up a bit.
A $600 Garand!?!?! Where? I don’t care what it looks like! cheapest one I’ve seen in the last three years was $1800
The bottom one looks pretty good for what it is? Not a fan of Maple Stocks but if that gun had a Walnut Stock I could force myself to shoot it. You never know It might shoot pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by JSnover
Randy
some one should be in jail for that top one.Quote:
Originally Posted by atfsux
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I'm with you. Darker wood and less "bling" up front... I'd be tempted.Quote:
Originally Posted by W.R.Buchanan
- got my first one from the Director of Civilian Marksmanship DOD in 1991, price was $94.30 - unlike current DCM they only allowed 1 per person per lifetime - DCM currently is selling rack grade M1's for $700.00 to qualified buyers -Quote:
Originally Posted by Brassmonkey
I'm curious how the gas system works on the bottom one.
I have seen one at a local gun show like the above. Bless his heart, it looked to have been an expensive professional job, and must have cost quite a bit. And, absolutely destroyed the value of the M1.Quote:
Originally Posted by michael.birdsley
The Garand, in its as-issued form, is about the best looking it's going to get. I can't think of any modifications that aesthetically enhance the rifle. Maybe an aftermarket high grade wood or laminate stock, but in its original configuration. Not some "sporting" abomination.