What are yours? Jacketed and cast?
I plan on using it in standard rounds such as 243, 270, 308 and all the military 30 cal cartridges.
FWIW I just opened a 20 pounder. Thanks, 30CF
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What are yours? Jacketed and cast?
I plan on using it in standard rounds such as 243, 270, 308 and all the military 30 cal cartridges.
FWIW I just opened a 20 pounder. Thanks, 30CF
43.5 gr IMR4064 under a 165 gr Hornady SPBT in my Mauser FR-8, 7.62x51 (308 Win). Very accurate, bang-flop load. Single digit ES and SD, 2550 FPS/16.5" barrel.
Anywhere from 43 to 49 grains in my M1. 43 grains with either a 150 grain boattail or 110 grain RN makes a very accurate low recoil load (2400 to 2600 fps) and 49 grains gives a good max load-- both very accurate. I've also used 43 grains with a 311284 215 grain GC boolit (and it worked) but it is probably a little too hot for that. I would happily grab a 20 pounder if I ever saw one. As it is, I grab 8 pounders when I can-- just to keep plenty in stock. I've also found good results with lighter loads in my 30-30 and 32 WS. Its a great powder to have around.
48gr in my M-1 under a 150gr Hornady FMJ. W-W brass, W-W LRP. (30-06)
52 grains with a 150 in my bolt action '06's. 57 grains with110 Vmax for coyotes. Yes, a little overpowered but the hides are worthless here. Much more effect on prairie dogs than a 223 or even a 22-250.
A case full, compressed according to reloading book guidelines under a good 200 grain RN in the 35 Remington beats factory velocity by a bit and shoots as well as it can in a 336.
Not mentioned a lot as a 22-250 powder but I like how its bulk fills the case. Favorite powder for lighter bullets in mid sized to '06 sized cases compared to shorter granuled powders to reduce air space in the case. Great under a 75 in the 257 Roberts, for example.
One of a relatively few rifle powders I buy in 8 lb jugs.
I use it my 30-30, and 308, but off the top of my head I can't remember the loads.
from Ithaca Gunner: 48gr in my M-1 under a 150gr Hornady FMJ. W-W brass, W-W LRP. (30-06)
I tried a few at 49.0 with military 150 FMK FB in my 03A3 and it seemed ok but I may back it down a bit. Also willing to run it with some 168 Sierra MK's but at a lower level.
Got the 20# a while ago, haven't seen one since. And I've not been getting in any range time, which is getting fixed at last! As soon as I have some results I'll post it here.
That load has worked out well for me and a few other fellows for some years. When I rebarreled my M-1 I started at 46gr. and began working up, 48 is where I stopped again. It should duplicate G.I. ball pretty close.
I will try it. In the past it was always IMR 4895 and I got good results with that in my M1 and in different calibers. I'm unsure if I have the Hornady FMJ's but I do have Win and the mentioned FMJ flatbase bullets.
30-06 48 grs under Hornady 165 gr SP. Was a Ken Waters pet load "for 200 yard paper shooting". Pretty soft, plenty accurate.
220 Swift 52 gr Burger hp and 36 gr. 4064. Runs 3600, according to Seirra data book. 39 grs. for full house @ 3900.
56.0 gr IMR 4064 under either 250 gr Nosler Partitions or 250 gr Speer Hot Cores in the 35 Whelen. 2500 FPS in a 22" barrel and again, single digit ES and SDs. Nice to be able to shoot the cheaper Speer bullets for practice too, they shoot exactly the same!
57.5 gr IMR4064 under the 200 gr Hornady SP in the 35 Whelen for 2650 FPS/22" barrel. Same single digit ES and SDs.
43.0 gr IMR 4064 under 95 gr Hornady V-Max bullets in the 6.5X55 Swede.
These are all the very best loads in my rifles, proven with hundreds of groups well under an inch. YMMV
I'm using it in the 0-6 under a sierra 150 for stupid small groups in my Bergara rifle right at 2800 fps.
probably use this combination for deer hunting this fall.
I'm also using it under 87gr speers in the 25-06 for about 3400 fps.
I'm using it in something else too but I don't remember what case it is right now.
IMR4064 loads almost anything from .22cf to .45cf and does it well. Maybe not the best powder for all applications, but something useful can usually be found no matter what the cartridge.
48 grns pushing pushing a 130 gr sierra game king made my a-bolt .270 a legit moa gun to 300 yds, as far as I've shot. 47.5 gr was 3! A little can make a lot of difference.
4064 was my favorite powder for 22-250. 34 gr behind a a 53 Sierra HP is an excellent accuracy load. My Ruger 77 is consistently under 1/2 MOA with it.
A lot of good stuff here.
I hadn't thought of the 22 CF's much but a friend who shot NRA hi power had a load that did well in a HBV 9" 223 win bolt with 80 grain Sierras. It was the only powder that would run well with the heavy bullets.
Speaking of the 22 center fires, 4064 was quite popular in the early days of the 220 Swift.
A buddy switched from 4064 to RL15 when it came out. Easier measuring was a big reason I'm sure. With 4064, I just weigh/trickle and deal with it. If I was using a progressive, I'm sure I would feel differently.
From its introduction many years ago now, 4064 has been widely touted as a very accurate and stable, reliable, repeatable powder. I've used it in '06 and .270. In '06, 52 gr. in strong bolt actions with most any 150 gr. J-bullet was a standard load for many decades now. Accuracy might be best at a little over or under that (be VERY careful if you go over that, because many guns show this to be a practical maximum load!) but that's the classic load for 150's in '06. I can't recall the exact charge wt. but I believe it was about 48 gr. in the '06 with 180 JSPs of most any make. Beware of using any of these loads with the solid copper bullets, as some can increase breech max. pressures.
In .270, I used 49 gr. with 130's, and a bit more (was it 51 gr?) with 110's. Don't recall trying it with the 150's. 4350 did much better there is all I can recall. It was always satisfyingly accurate in .270, but 4350 gave more velocity and a tad better accuracy in the guns I've had in that caliber.
Also used it in 6mm. Rem., with 75-85 gr. bullets, and it was always accurate there. Especially with the lighter bullets. Excellent powder. The long sticks make measuring a tad harder, but nothing that can't be contended with if you learn to tap the handle of your powder measure the right number of times, and with just the right amount of force, to settle things inside the measure and keep your charges more consistent.
Col. Hatcher noted a curious thing back when he was in charge of Springfield Armory, the original gov't installation, not the current commercial one. He was asked to create extra accurate ammo for the Army marksmanship units, and he tried weighing the powder charges rather than volumetrically dumping them as was used on their loading machines. In trials, though, those weighed loads proved LESS accurate than the volumetrically charged ones from the machines! This was a puzzlement to him, and he concluded, and most agree, that the reason was that the dumped charges bulked up more, very consistently, and that probably allowed the flash of the primer to penetrate deeper into the powder charge, thus providing more uniform ignition of the charge, and thus, better accuracy. As far as I know, this is the best and maybe only explanation for the seemingly contradictory results he got, but he repeated the tests several times, believing something was amiss, but always got the same results.
Reloading is full of counter-intuitive things, and this is just one of them. Many complain about 4064's long grains, but in reality, most would do well to go out and try it before panning it out of what seems at first to be "logic." It's easy to forget we often don't have all the info we need, even when we think we do. I can't recall anyone complaining about the performance of 4064, unless they were using it in a magnum and weren't getting quite the velocity they expected. That will always take a slower burning powder.
33.5 grains of 4064 in a 225 Winchester 55 gr Ballistic tip
28gr in the 30-30 with the Lee 180gr shoots well in my Savage 340.
44gr in my Heavy barrel Rem700 .308 under a 175gr sierra MK dings steel at 1000 yards all day.
48 gr. 4064. 150 gr jacketed bullet in the M1 Garand....dale
21 grs. behind a 225415 in my 222 gives excellent accuracy.....Floyd
I've read of better accuracy with long stick powders versus 4895 in loading for match shooting.
Good info on the 270 as I've one I've not yet fired and will try it with the 110's and 130's.
Going on a short weekend retreat with friends and will be loading some '06, 308 and 7.62x54R up for the range. Not looking for the last fps but we will be shooting to 400 yards.
I have just recently started playing with imr 4064 in Remington 223 and it seams like it will put them all in one big hole on target . I'm a bit behind on technology , I have always used 4350 , 4831 imr in everything from 243-300mag with very good results , I don't know how I missed 4064 for all these years but in my search for varget I found 4064 has the burn rate I was looking for . So I'm going to say with the bullet I am using right now 25.5 gr of 4064 works for me .
I use it in My Remington 788 .243, as well as in my custom 22-250. Cant remember off hand the charge in the 22-250. However i use 34-35 gr. under the 100 gr. BTSP Sierra Game King in my .243, Makes it an absolute Deer death ray. Pushing it around 2800 ish . It also shoots 85 gr. Sierra BTHP extremely well,but haven't loaded any of those for years,would have to look in my loading book to give the charge data for that one as well. CASTER
that 85 gr Sierra bthp is my mod 70 Winchester 243s favorite , but I haven't tried it with 4064 .
33 WCF – 46.0 gr 4064, Hornady 200 gr FN bullet 35 WCF – 48.0 gr 4064, Hornady 250 gr RN bullet Both loads produce about 2200 fps.
My favourite rifle powder by far. Used up more than 40 lbs over the years. Some great loads (for me)- M1- 46.5 grs with 165 gr Hornady SP. Browning BAR 3006 48 grs with same Hornady bullet- my hunting load. Norinco M14 any 150 gr FMJ over 42grs. 6.5x55 in Swedish Mausers- 35.0 grs with 140 gr Hornady SP's. None of these are max loads but I have found them the most accurate in these rifles. Also shot up some 4064 in a couple 8x57 Mausers.
As with all "internet loads" I suggest also checking at least one reliable source of data.
It does seem to fit well in a lot of different instances. My main interest were for the mil 30 cals but the others are appreciated also as I've few standard hunting rifles that will see IMR 4064 very shortly.
Tonite it's '06 and 303 British, then to the range tomorrow. Hope the weather holds
IMR4064 is a very useful powder. Been using it for 51 years now and was my first centerfire powder when I started loading. Superb in the 30-06, .308 Win, .32 Win Special and 30-30. Killed a lot of deer using IMR4064. My experience with it is that it does not shine until near maximum pressures have been achieved or the std dev and extreme spreads tend to be high. It rarely gives me any surprises or pressure spikes too. It is one of those powders that would be near the top of my list if I had to choose only one powder to work with. Works with all my .35 calibers from .35 Rem, 358 Win, 35 Whelen and 350 Rem Mag. Can really be used in anything that goes bang from little to large.
358 Win
47grns under a 175 SMK in my Garands. Shoot just like the M72 match load.
48 grs under 150 or 155 gr j-thingys in the M1, I use it in my 307 win too, can't remember the weight.
Never used it with cast, yet
Be well
49 grs under a 200 gr Speer Hot Cor in a Rem 700 30-06 helped me take an elk @300yds with one shot. Yeah I like IMR 4064. Best, Thomas.
I have been using 4064 in 30/06 and 30-30 since 1961. Great powder. I have used it satisfactorily in 270 but I agree with Blackwater that 4350 is a better choice for the 270.
For .30 WCF, 30 grains under any 150 grain j-word in my Marlins is just perfect. My .257 Roberts really likes 32 grains under a 115 grain Sierra Pro-Hunter, dropped a fat doe with that one last year. Never benchrested this powder but from a bipod it produces groups as small as any other I've tried. 4064 is a well kept secret because it's always in stock here. I may eventually consolidate all my bottleneck cartridges into using it.
It really shines in the 8x57 as well. Discontinued 125 Hornadyspire point over 4064 at an honest 3100 (Oehler) was my deer dropper for years. DRT and 3/4" groups out of my BRNO/ ER SHAW 23". Best, Thomas.
When powder was hard to find for alot. That was the one powder to find around here without any problems. Any place that sold powder that was the one to mainly to find.I do not know about other parts if that was the same.