Lyman moulds resemble Duesenberg automobiles......no two alike! :)
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Lyman moulds resemble Duesenberg automobiles......no two alike! :)
From the reading I have done on the development of the Keith Mould - there were many versions before Ideal and Keith were done, I never heard of any of the prototypes being destroyed. If IRC Ideal changed Keith's design when it went into production.
There is so much speculation about what transpired and when it happened - I doubt that it will ever truly be sorted out.
Truth!
There is so much speculation about what transpired and when it happened - I doubt that it will ever truly be sorted out.
Also true! I tried Lyman, and my call seemed to trigger some sort of denial response. I honestly believe that they don't really care that much about their history. That's kind of sad in a way, the company has so much history, they just don't appear to know what it is.
I can't find that article 45 2.1. Too bad too, as I'd like to read it.
Cat
So, what happened to Dry Creek??
I'm still here but there comes a time to slow down. I've supplied a nation of shooters with bullets for the past 12 years or so & now I'd like to have more time to shoot some of them myself. I have a man who is casting these bullets & plans to supply a few. I'll PM you & see if we can help. God Bless......Lynn
That was a very enlightening read. Thank you for the good discussions back and forth.
I have tons of questions, but it is because I can't at the moment look at some of the photos that were originally in the thread, but once I start putting molds to the images, they will make more sense.
I never really said a thank you to all who participated in this thread. So let me do that now. Thanks one & all for the time & effort..........Lynn
Here's some pictures, hope you enjoy them:
First Mr. Keith. I supplied Cabela's in Boise, ID with this photo which can be found when entering the
Elmer Keith Museum. I took this with a simple Kodak 110 in 1978 at his home. Some kind soul sent us a post card showing this.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...pics/Elmer.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../Picture-1.jpg
The Lyman 429421 which was our best selling bullet. The molds came from Graf & Sons & are marked 2002.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1/DSC02095.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...psf37c7b1b.jpg
The Lyman 429421 bullet blueprint
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...print1RS-1.jpg
The Lyman 358429. This mold is on loan so I can't remember the year but most likely 2003.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture138.jpg
The Lyman 358429 bullet blueprint
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...yman358429.jpg
The 41-230 Keith from NEI mold 41-220-PB. I turned down a contract with Buffalo Bore for this bullet.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...0-K/aaa014.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...K/DSC02791.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...K/DSC02801.jpg
The 45-265 Keith. This bullet is from the Balllisti-Cast #1101 mold. I have a matched set of these from Plaza, ND when Dennis Edwards had the company.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...psc8d3205f.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...K/DSC06155.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...K/DSC06156.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...K/DSC06158.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...K/DSC06149.jpg
WOW! fantastic read, thank you gents! Very informative, educational and sometimes entertaining (dickburns) "after boot camp your never the same"
LAH
45 2.1
felix (RIP)
Beagle
Lloyd Smale
Time to grab the Ruger 45Colt and tear some stuff up (at 25 yards) haha
Love the pics LAH they are now in my personal library.
Thanks bearman. I only began the thread, its the others who really made it what it is.
Lynn, did you ever come up with those steel masters? I'm assuming that they would represent a high-mark of Keith design, sanctioned by Keith himself toward the end of a lifetime of development.
I contacted the company said to have them & it was acknowledged they were probably there at one time but the present whereabouts are unknown but were most likely thrown out with an array of other stuff.
One thing I never hear mentioned is Keith's designs with the hollow bases. Does anyone have any experience with these. He had versions of both the 38 and the 44 with a plug like for a hollowpoint that gave you a hollowbase. The bullet was cast nose up, so that a plug would work. Mold number was 429422.
There is also quite a bit from EK about his development of the designs in his earlier book "Sixgun Cartridges and Loads". Pretty amazing, he had most of it worked out in the 1930's.
My friend Kent Lomont had a hollow base .44 Keith mold and said it was extremely accurate.
Can anyone provide the Handloader issue number for the December, 2013 issue that has the Brian Pearce article on the Keith .44 bullet mould?
Thanks, and best regards,
What Cheer
Issue # 287
Thanks dkf.
Best regards,
What Cheer
Can anyone offer an opinion on how the RCBS Keith-type molds stack up as far as being faithful to the original designs and as to whether the bullets work well? Thanks GWW