I found that too many bbs can not hurt anything except make it hard to find the boolits, now if you don't get enough it can cause problems with the boolits not covering and hitting one another leaving marks on each other.
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I found that too many bbs can not hurt anything except make it hard to find the boolits, now if you don't get enough it can cause problems with the boolits not covering and hitting one another leaving marks on each other.
I wonder if this would help do a wet tumble for the matte black if you used steel bb's...? Or if the plastic bb's will melt in the laquer thinner? The only reason I stopped using the black is because the red dry works so well but I really liked the black. But the black needing two coatings is a slight negative to the single coating red.
Too many bb's may not be a problem at all.....just makes it very difficult to get your coated buddies out the "soup"! I did not try a whole bunch as I figured less is better. And it stretches your (now dwindling!) supply of black 'uns.
The prospect of using .177 metal bb's with boolits and the matte black in an acetone/laq thinner suspension sounds interesting! I cannot find my bottle of metal ones or I would try it. Haven't shot them in at least 6 months.
Hope someone out there tries it!
banger
I don't like the idea of "soft" lead and "hard" metal BBs.
I don't either unless there is a film of plastic powder in between them. I never liked the idea of metal on metal w/o an oil film there, that's why I keep oil in my crank case. Remember valve issues in old engines when everything went to unleaded? The harder material of the steel BBs actually impregnate the powder into the surface, that's why you can handle them much rougher from the case tumbler to the oven.
Ebner
Another excuse to go to Wally World, if it makes a smoother coating I'm all for it, however
I have noticed that even with a blotchy coating of HF red powder they usually bake out fully covered.
Also want to make some pliers like that but the hemo marks on the boolit noses do the same,
seem to get filled in or smoothed over in the oven.
Thank you Boolit Coating Technology Research Team! (Is there a t-shirt yet?)
PS good tip on the screw-top Ziplocks, I have some of those too.
Well, I found my metal BB's and tried the liquid thing.
OMG! What a mess. It is no more than a rehash of the Piglett method....with just more mess...BB's in there also1
The black does NOT run & melt when it gets hot like our favorite red. It just stays, so if you have clumps, you WILL have clumps!
1st I tried BB's and lacquer thinner. It just clumped in the bottom but did deposit on the boolits:
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A total mess.
Next I tried Crown brand of Acetone. It actually dissolved the black powder into a paint with no lumps. I am sure somebody out there is going to try spraying it on with a paint sprayer! Just buy the ESPC gun.
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Smoother but still looks like old tar.
Bottom line, if you want to use HF matte black, buy the $60 ESPC gun!
bangerjim
I was using the 8 oz CoolWhip container, but I was worried about the lid. And I found these at Publix for $1.52 each. They are made to store CDs and I guess since CDs are outdated, they are cheap! Anyway, it looked like something great for tumbling. The whole thing is made of #5 plastic and it has the same snap closure on the back too, so the top comes off for easy boolit picking. I figure it'll hold about 2-300 at a time. It looked great for mold/die storage too, so I bought 6 of em. :grin:
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Does any one know if powder usedfor fishing jigs is the same as the powder that you can buy at
harbor freight? I have the opportunity to buy some cheap thats why i ask.
Believe it or not........those "chunky monkeys" actually passed the smash test!!!!!!!! Not a sliver of coating came off! This stuff is amazing.
But the liquid method is a no-go. And acetone DOES dissolve the black Airsoft BB's!
So the dry BB method is still the best......unless you want "ninja matte black". Then I use my ESPC.
banger
......."taking the risks.......so you will not have to!" HA......ha.
Dad gum it. I was at WalMart an hour before I found this thread!
Last time I ever try to use my imagination EVER!!!! :P
I think it was BangerJim that used the shake an bake for 22cal bullets. He used 1/4" screen wire. I had a lot of fallthroughs (sp)during the baking time. I solved the problem by using a metal baking sheet under the screen. This also fixes a miner problem of the screen sagging in spots which makes bullets roll to the low spots. Kevin
Ah dang it, now Im gonna have to try this with steel BB's as well. no matter what I do I cant seem to get good enough coverage "for me" with either DT or DDBB. Im so OCD or "CDO" as I like it alphabetically, 1 coat is probably enough but I just have to make them "look" right.
I know, I know! one coat is probably enough but I am what I am!!! :veryconfu
Still having fun though... did some RCBS 35-200's yesterday (yes 2 coats) but they cool real quickly when taken out so I just waited 5 to 10 minutes for them to cool and dropped them back into the bowl, tumbled them again and back on the foil they went.. They look real good!!!
Oh and Tupperware containers with the "5" on them do work just as good as the CoolWhip container for me, the wifey had some sitting around so now she is down 3 of them as well as the tweezers.... Im not telling.. [smilie=l:
Doc
Just tried it with Crossman high impact .25 Gram graphite gray colored (they look black) Airsoft BB's and 2 teaspoons of HF Red.. Just put in about 10 158 Grn 357's swirl for count to 30 then same for up & down and got nice full coverage
This will make all those little 22 and 6 MM bullets so much easier to coat and get Full coverage
I gotta get to casting! I have coated everything I got in stock. :neutral: