No pics but I cast 175 g SWC(Lee) 195 g SWC (LEE) MP 210g HP / 220g 210 TL (Lee) 240g SWC (Lee)....I use the MP mainly
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No pics but I cast 175 g SWC(Lee) 195 g SWC (LEE) MP 210g HP / 220g 210 TL (Lee) 240g SWC (Lee)....I use the MP mainly
Nice gun...I have a 6" 657 also that I had cut back to 5" last year...is a great shooter...
What loads are you using??
Bob
Received the two 265 grain molds from Mehic this past week...works of art as usual. Ordered one plain base solid and one gas check with all pins... Won't be casting again for a few months...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...pslnda0weg.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...ps8phgkmkk.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...psp7ybsqfp.jpg
...forgot the small HP pin...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...pslek6zyye.jpg
Bob
Beautiful molds there :D
CD
I think this is going to end up the boolit used in the Custom Gary Reeder 5.5". Have tried several boolits in the 230-300 grain range and it seems to shoot the heavier boolits very well and handles the recoil very nicely.
There is a second cylinder in .41 GNR which is a .44 Magnum necked down to .41 but the velocity gain isn't that great. Have talked to Reeder about punching it out to the .454 based .410 GNR for some real velocity gain...
Bob
.41 Magnum Round Handloading Ideal For Silhouette Or Hunting
by Dan Cotterman, page 16, 30
American handgunner, Mar/Apr 1981
http://americanhandgunner.com/1981issues/HMA81.pdf
A few loads at the end, mostly for 2400. Dan is using a model 57.
...ok folks...it is almost hunting season...who here will be hunting with a .41? If so what gun and load??
Bob
I will. Titanium Taurus 4inch with NOE HP and 2400 for about 1000fps. I hunt like I'm bowhunting so 30 yards will be a long shot, can't wait !!!
5.5" Redhawk .410 GNR//255 gr .33 meplat-- loaded down to 1500
4" Tarsus 225 LFNGC Miha mold 1100 fps-- carry gun
DWA 6" 230 gr Saeco Keith 1340 fps
9'' .41 GNR TC --212 penta hollow point 1820 fps
12'' TC 41# 2 210 gr hp 2200--
that's all folks :)
rking...that should be a challenge!!!
GLynn...some pics of those would be great... I have a 5.5" Ruger SBH that Reeder build with a 5 shot cylinder. There is an extra cylinder in .41 GNR but I am not impressed with the velocities over the standard .41s... I am thinking of sending it back to be rechambered to .410 GNR... Your 12" TC..is that a GNR #2?
Bob
Heads up , NOE has .410s on sale !!!!!
Got mine coming so now I can pass along the link :)
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.p...sort=2a&page=2
That 412-251 reminds me of the Cast Performance 255 with the .33 meplat...
Which mold did you order?
The 412459 ,NOE 412-224SWC in a 4cavity PB. I've been using the Lee 195 but it is barely big enough as cast. I have a 412-238 HP with GC(230 in my alloy with HP) for a hunting boolit, but wanted a nice fast casting "just shootin" boolit. Was casting some Lee 375255s this morning and ran some more 411195s, no the mold is still a littlebit little, was hoping it'd grown some :). Funny how molds have a personality, that Lee 375 mold makes great .380 boolits from the first pour, another 358200 Lee is a most difficult child. Had o smoke it to get it to stop with the folds. The 411195 casts good but just not big enough for my throats. they do size/lube easy :) I am shooting 41 special loads in a Taurus Ti while waiting on a 41Special GP100 from Clements.
Almost forgot: Handloaders Digest 9th has an article about 41shorts. Made from 45ACP cases!!! going to read it tonight. I always find new and interesting "stuff" in my old book shelf!
I read that article long ago -- to me it is easier to just trim normal .41 s to what I want-- becasue the boolits are so long in my Tarsus I shoot shorts--or specials in it
I love the .41 Mag. My uncle taught me to shoot and reload for his M57 8.375" back in 84' and I've owned them since. Here's my current .41s and couple of my bullets.
http://i71.servimg.com/u/f71/16/48/54/01/41_mag10.jpg
Ranch Dog TL-411-255RF and Lee 195gr SWC
http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/16/48/54/01/41_bul11.jpg
CD
For those of you looking for a heavy .41 mold...270 grain custom Lee. I bought one...
http://singleactions.proboards.com/t...pecial-request
Bob
this may have been mentioned but John Taffin has an article on the .41 special-- two loads that work well are 13.5 of 2400 and 13.5 AA#9 with a 225-230 Keith or LWN-- that is my carry load in the 4''Tarus
I just shot this weekend with my 4" S&W Mountain Gun, 220g SWC/Keith (Accurate Molds) sized .411" BAC lube 7g Unique 12 shots all in the 9-10 ring offhand. Recoil was acceptable and not heavy at all.
I use just about the same load in my Mountain Gun but use 8.0 grains for 950 fps. That equals the original Police loading that Remington came out with in 1964. I have a box of them I picked up in a trade and will chronograph them the next .41 testing session... I hate to shoot them as the bullets are soft swagged lead and make a mess.
personally-- I would have to try some of the bullets you have already made- just to see--
7gr of Herco, Unique, or 800x normally will shoot very well
if you have not tried it Herco does real well with cast boolts
It's been a while since I posted on this thread. Since my last post I went and purchased some nice rose wood grips from here http://www.handgungrips.com/Blackhaw...er/1598/c/3070 they are reference 3277. They are much much better than the factory cheese graters that made the revolver feel like it was trying to squirm loose from your hand under recoil. So friends now I have a new situation on my hands and need to pick some of y'alls brains for your opinions and experiences.
Grouse season opened up here not to long ago and as usual I hit the woods with my H&R single shot 20GA. I was about to cross a small creek when I discovered a pile of bear scat next to the single 2x6 that my buddy calls a bridge (I call it a death trap especially in the winter). There are black bears close to here but this is the first time I ever heard or seen sign of them being in this neighborhood. I knew from that point that my .41 mag was going to accompany me on all of my future outings. I only encountered one other pile of scat while grouse hunting so I thought that the bear was just moving through the area. That certainly was not the case as I found a tree that the bear thoroughly tore up, as well as some old logs nearby that it tore apart as well. I normally use a 215gr SWC over 8.5gr of Unique and I know that this combo will have no problem going through both shoulders of that bear if needed. But my question is would it be more or less effective than a good JHP like the Speer 210gr DC which I have as well?
I have only shot paper with my .41 no animals so I'm not sure what to expect were I to shoot said bear. Can anyone here offer up some personal field results of either of the above mentioned loads? Thanks in advance.
I cannot comment to bear as I have no first hand experience. Deer OTOH, since we are talking meat here, I run either a 230g Keith or 250g WFN. Just really depends on what I feel like and gun I am going to carry (the keiths have a much longer OAL). Either way, they produce through and through shots. The 210g Gold-dot, 210g XTP, and 220g Speer all do just fine but they do expand and do destroy meat on the off side.
Applies just as well to a .41...
http://forums.accuratereloading.com/...10798#43810798
I don't think this link has been posted yet but if it has, excuse the re-posting.
http://www.singleactions.com/HeavyFortyOnes.pdf
I only have one heavy .41 mold and haven't used it yet. This article documents actual experience, albeit with only subjective results.
In the past I have only read opinions that the twist in .41's would only support 190-220 gr. boolits(articles said bullets).
I really don't have any interest in such heavy boolits, but enjoy reading contradicting articles.
41 Special would be great in a small package. I load 41 Special loads in my 657 Smith.210grainers @ 950fps
I've been shooting 250 to 305 grain boolits in a Smiths, Rugers and FA for several years and there is no accuracy issue. The bigger issue is lack of front sight height especially on Smiths... With the rear run all the way down a 255 CPBC-LBT is several inches above POA at 25 yards with a 4" 57.
Thanks for Lee's article...have not seen that one yet...
Bob
a .41 cal SSK mold I had produced a300 gr bullet and it shot fine-- in a 6'' DWA and my S&W
now I never go over 255-265 or so --on 280 lbs boar the 255 sailed on through-- good enough for me
Heads up, there are several 41 molds on the NOE sale list for this week, 15% off I believe!
Went to a gunshow yesterday, dont cry Hillary, found a publication from IMR date unknown. It was mostly shotgun loads, there were some handgun loads in the back that listed Dupont PB. Listed 9.5 gr. for a 210 lead, and 10 gr. for a 210 jhp. By the way didn,t see any violent guns.
Has anyone tried Cutting Edge Bullets... They are solid copper and come in 135/180 HPs and a 220 solid... The 135 really intrigues me as one could easily run it at 1300 fps and have very little recoil and a LOT of expansion and penetration on two-legged vermin..
https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-b...ey=HGHP_41_135
Over on LoadDate.com there is a lot of data from a HANDLOADER Magazine article. They used a 5.5" Ruger Bisley and got some very high velocities from the 135s...
Bob
RJM52 thanks for the interesting article -on hunting bear-- which I hope to do-- would never argue with the stated information-- but I do have a question-- with the LWNGC I use I do not get a small hole --at 40 steps it blew the lungs up on a deer --much like a rifle-- the holes in my one and only boar were good inch on entrance-- so I have not seen a pencil through-- but I will remember the info as deer season approaches-- I can make soft points ---hollow points -- or just ACWW which will at least deform
The only friend I have who made a good hit on a large black bear with a home cast FP from a .45-70 followed the bear for several hours before loosing the blood trail in the rain. The next time he used a JHP and bear was DRT...
JJ knows his stuff...
Bob
It looks that way to me too--may try some cup points this year
Many moons ago I had a Ruger Redhawk 5.5" in .41...now I have one even better...
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthr....#Post10602196
can you help me out looking for some loads just for this mold Lyman 410459 220gr powder I have on hand 2400 Unique H110
would like to use on Deer out to 50 yards to 75 yards gun is Ruger BH 4 5/8"
thanks
For H110 I have a simple method... Take a dowel and measure from the crimping groove to the base of the bullet. Then start filling the case with H110 till the powder hits the bottom of the rod. With H110 I've found regardless of caliber if the base of the bullet sits right on top of the powder charge just holding it in place I get the highest velocity with the lowest fps spread, no unburned powder and the best accuracy. I usually use Winchester LP Primers or CCI Magnum.
For that bullet it is right around 22-23 grains.
2400...have not used that much of it because I've found that unless it is pushed hard it leaves unburned powder. With that bullet start at 17.0 grains...
Bob