I have a couple;
44-40 in my '73 Winchester--7gr Unique under 200gr cast boolit
6.5 Carcano--27gr H4895 under a 168gr cast
Fun to shoot!
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I have a couple;
44-40 in my '73 Winchester--7gr Unique under 200gr cast boolit
6.5 Carcano--27gr H4895 under a 168gr cast
Fun to shoot!
One (1) grain PB under Lyman 252435 in .25 Automatic Colt Pistol.
11.5 gr of herco under a lyman 195 lrn bullet (I cant remember the mold number) out of my 35 marlin . bullet is pan lubed with 50 50 petroleum jelly - paraffin wax with a tsp of stp . the only trouble I had was bullets were getting shaved when loading but the lee universal case expanding die took care of that . low recoil nice easy shooter decent accuracy at 50 yrds with open sights
5 grains of Unique in 257 Roberts with 85 gr cast bullets
5 grains of 231 in 32-40 with 170 gr cast bullets
Both shoot great out to 50 yards and under 1000 fps
Outpost’s Alliant Bullseye Data – These Are The Loads That I Use, Your Mileage May Vary
.32 ACP___________71 FMJ_____2.2____850___Min. OAL 0.955 Do Not Reduce
____________________________2.4____905___Max, Do Not Exceed
_________________87 LFN_____1.5____620___Accurate 31-087T, Quiet for inserts, don’t reduce
____________________________1.7___720___Max. for Keltec and light alloy frames
2.0 800 Max, do not exceed, steel frames only
.32 S&W Long______87 LFN_____ 2.5___850___Accurate 31-087t Max. I-frame S&W Hand Ejector
____________________________3.0___950___Max. Postwar J frames Models 30, 31,
__________________93 LHP___ 2.5 830 Max. S&W Hand Ejector, light alloy frames
___________________________3.0___900___Max. Postwar J frames, Postwar Colts, Rugers
__________________98 SWC___2.0___ 750___Saeco #325, Approximates Factory Velocity
___________________________2.5___850___Max. S&W I-frame Hand Ejector, light alloy frames
__________________114 LFN___2.5____750___Accurate 31-114D Postwar steel frames only
3.0 850 OAL 1.32” to feed in Marlin 1894 CB, OK in Rugers
.38 Specia_________148 HBWC__2.8____750___Do Not Reduce
___________________________3.2___800___Do Not Exceed with HBWC
_________________146 DEWC__ 3.5___830___Saeco #348, Standard pressure, OAL 1.20”
____________________________4.0___880___”Full Charge WC” Approximates +P Service
_________________160 LFN_____3.0___750___Cowboy load, Do Not Reduce
4.0 850 Approximates +P Service Min. OAL 1.50”
.357 Mag._________180 LHP____ 4.0____950___Rook Rifles, quiet, accurate
4.5 1080 “adjust up to +0.5 grain as needed for best accuracy
.44-40 WCF_______200 LFN_____5.0___750___Revolver velocity, Accurate 43-200Q, Do Not Reduce
___________________________7.2___1270__M92, Marlin 1894 Rifle Do Not USE in 1873 Win, Colt SAA
8.0 1380 Rifle velocity Max. Winchester ’92 and Marlin 1894
.44 Magnum_______ 200 LFN___6.0___ 850___Accurate 43-200Q Do not reduce in Mag. brass
__________________260 LFN__ 7.0____950__“Medium Velocity” plainbased bullet
240 SJHP 8.0 1030 Jacketed “Medium Velocity”
.45 ACP___________200 SWC___4.5___ 860___H&G68 or Accurate 45-200I
__________________230 LFN__ 4.5___800___Saeco #954
260 LFN 4.0 900 Saeco #955
.45 Colt 230 LFN 6.5 880 Saeco #954
7.62x39 162 NOE 5.0 1300 Lee C312-155-2R clone, manual op.
.30-30_____________152LFN___4.0____900___RCBS 30-150CM, Do Not Reduce
___________________________6.0___1200
175LHP 7.0 1300 Do Not Exceed
.30-40 Krag________162 NOE__ 7.0___1200 Do not reduce
And .303 Brit. 220 CBE 8.0 1200 Do Not Exceed
.30-’06____________134 FN____4.0___1050 Accurate 31-134D, Do Not Reduce
_________________162 LFN____5.0___1080 HM2-.312-160-5 no GC Do Not Reduce
162 LFN 8.5 1300 Do Not Exceed
.375 H&H__________270FN____ 10.0___1000 #37549, No GC needed, Do Not Reduce
__________________270FN___ 13.0___1300 Do Not Exceed, USE NO FILLERS!!!!
I have a few but these 2 are the ones I shoot the most.
1) 7.62x54R, 160gr Lee 2R,TL 6gr. Bullseye 1075f/s
2) 30-30 Win (Very old Marlin take down model IIRC 1893 model) same boolit as above sized to .311" driven by 10gr. Trail Boss Have yet to chronagraph it but the accuracy is VERY good and the fun factor is off the scale.:)
Motor
7 grains of trail boss with a 255 grain RNFP in the .38-55, nice and dead on at 100 yards out of a marlin 93.
12.0 grains Hodgdon 4198 under a 170 grain RNFP Lead slug in the 32-40 Win.
Saves on paper too, you only need a postage stamp for a target...
I tried to replicate the M1906 guard cartridge with instructions from Ed Harris. http://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum...76&forum_id=48
8g BE and a Win LRP in a 30-06 case under a Lee 312-155-2R (162gr with powder coat and GC) fired in a M1903. Shoots to poa with battle sights to 100 yrds...1250 avg at the muzzle.
For my Rem 700 Tactical .308 I shoot the RCBS 168 grain Sil boolit over 19 grains of SR4759.....not a mousefart load but a reduced load with little recoil and clean burning; guessing around 1600 FPS (no chronograph). 10 shot groups of about 1 MOA/100 yards which is as well as I can do with any ammunition in this rifle. I tried the "universal reduced load" of 13 grains of Red Dot and it worked o.k. but was not as accurate as 19 grains of SR4759. Since SR4759 has been discontinued I'm going to work up a similar load with 2400 or Unique.
44 Mag 240 cast 8/Unique
10 g Unique with 350g bullet 45-70
10 g Unique with 385g cast Lyman in 45-70 Trapdoor Springfield's.
1.8 grains bullseye 60 gr cast bullet Savage 22 Hi Power
5.5 gr Unique 22 bator bullet 223 Rem
10.5 gr Unique 185gr Lee in the 303 British
4.8 700-x 155gr bullet in 357 mag.
12 gr Unique 340 gr Lyman or Lee 45 minie sized to .440 in the 43 Spanish
6.5 gr titegroup in 303, 200Gr boolits. Whacks trees with athority, accurate in 2 groove rifles provided the boolit is big enough. Works well with 30 hunter too, sized to .311 in no1 and P14.
Be well
44 Mag , 250g RCBS 44-250-K, falls at 263g with 50/50 COWW/Range scrap.
10.5g HS-6, Winchester LPP, for 1000fps from my 7.5" Super Blackhawk Hunter. 12-shot 1.5" groups at 25 yds. SD is 15fps, if I remember correctly.
10g HS-6 gives 945fps, and single-digit SD. Also very accurate, very easy shooting. I can hear the boolitt smack the cardboard target-backer, at 25 yards.
Same 44 Mag -
200g LRNFP, 7.5g Universal, Win. LPP.
Haven't chrono'd this one yet, accurate and very easy shooting.
Great minds think alike!
.44 Mag, RCBS 250K, Fed 155 primer, HS-6 @ 11.8 gr., 1176 fps & 15 fps SD out of RH with 7.5" tube and 1066 fps & 7 fps SD out of a Smith MG with a 4" tube
Same guns, cartridge and boolit:
Unique @ 8.5 gr. in magnum cases
Three 44s
You are welcome, but now you got me humbled! [smilie=s:
Enjoy that great powder and boolit
Best regards
Three 44s
30-06 rifle. 170 gr lee cast bullet. 16.5 gr of Unique powder. 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yds.
45-70 350g Ranchdog 12.5 Unique/Universal ........12,5 Unique/Universal 30-06 314299(GC) Accurate Molds clone . Universal 7.5 200g 41 mag....................
.45-70 - 10 gr Red Dot under 350 gr Ranch Dog
9mm - 4.0 gr Red Dot under 120 gr Lee TC
.380 ACP - 1.5 gr Red Dot under 100 gr Ranch Dog RFN
For any reduced load in my experience, my favourite ingredient in all regards is Unique gunpowder. All you need is a pinch to get the performance you want, so it's very cheap to use, and because it's not position sensitive, you can use it even in large cases like the .45-70 without any ignition issues. It's consistent as well with a low deviation of speed between shots. Really, I can't say enough about it. I think it's the best. I don't know why anybody recommends Trail Boss. You have to use a lot of it to get the same performance you get out of a few grains of Unique, so it's not cheap. It's dirty, and worst of all is that it's higher pressure. If you have an older firearm and you want to keep the pressure down, what's the point of an expensive, bulky powder that doesn't perform, AND stresses your firearm much more than something like a reduced load of Unique? Anyway.
.38-55: 9 grains of Unique with a 255 grain booltt. 1300 fps or so and very accurate out to 100 yards. It's a reduced load, but also a near-hunting load, so maybe that one doesn't really qualify. So the other one I use is 5 grains of Unique with the same boolit. It's about 750-800 fps. Almost no sound at all and extremely accurate under 50 yards. It's actually the most accurate load I've ever used in my .38-55, and I can hit anything I want with it.
.45-70: 10 grains of Unique with a 405 grain pure lead boolit. 1000 fps or so, all kinds of fun to plink with, accurate.
.44 Magnum: Rifle or pistol, I use 5 grains of Unique with a 240 grain pure lead boolit. It's about the same performance as this load in the .38-55.
.30-06: Unique, anything between 12-16 grains, with a 180 grain Saeco #305. Like all the others, accurate and fun.
Its been awhile since anyone posted.
I only load the quiet loads close to the catsneeze loads anymore.
In the 30 cals, i use Bullseye, Unique, Titegroup, Titewad, etc. Under 77gr cast .32 caliber bullets to stretch my dwindling lead supply.
I have cast plastic hot glue boolits and used wax boolits as well, where i once used to cast and shoot the ,405 grainers in 45/70, i now cast round ball and collar button slugs.
Still lots of fun though.
Easier on the old shoulder and the wrists.
Low as 2grains of the fast powders like Bullseye up to only five grains of Unique.
Well, now the factories are even selling reduced loads for rimfires and centerfire pistol and rifle.
More shooters and reloaders than ever. Thanks
Minimum suggested load of trail boss (which I think is 5.2grains...I’m not by my load book) with a 255 grain lee in my Ruger new vaquero. I can hit quarters at 25 yards if I hold still enough with the load. Barely any recoil as well. Similar to a 22 WMR recoil.
Anything else I load with trailboss I can’t hit the broad side of a barn with.
Amazing amount of good information here!!
My nephew with his .458 Beowolf wants to compare it to my .454 Casull.
Oh well, the cycle starts over at the top with the younger crowd.
I will load and He can shoot it.
I prefer the powder puff .45 Colt loads, but don't tell him
That!
He won't understand till much later.
It looks like a lot of fun loads .
Re-primed, un-sized 357 case. Smallest Lee scoop of BE. Push a cast bullet all the way down on the powder charge and shoot out of my 357 Rossi carbine, single-loaded, of course. Surprisingly accurate at 50 feet. You might mop the soot out of the inside of the case before loading.
I took a piece of 7/8-14 all thread and drilled and reamed with a taper pin reamer a tapered bore to where I could push a .490 muzzleloader ball thru and it would size it to approximately .460 dia. I would coat them with LLA and load them over 5 grains of fast powder such as bullseye or 700 X and use them to shoot different pests from my yard and garden out of several 45-70 rifles.
I never shot them for groups but at 25 - 35 yards they were quiet and killed everything I shot them at.
I used to shoot literally dozens of groundhogs, raccoons, possums, feral cats, and even fox squirrels that would not
fear me when raiding my bird feeders for sunflower seeds.
I called them resized lead balls jellybeans as that’s what they kinda looked like and from back in the day when I use to use 50 cal. round balls I have hundreds of them and found a good use for them.
Jedman
finally someone who reads the pressure line of loading data....... trail boss its lots of fun BUT you need to look at pressure figures and then make up your mind. in the wee 7.62x39mm case wit ha 151grn HP cast std primer and 4-5-6 grains will go subsonic...if you use magnum primer you down the 4grn end of it and that is scarey low amount of powder.
so here is a question for you light load gurus.....
I have AP30N and AP50N I have 405grn cast projectiles and a .45/70.....
what would be a good place to start n finish powder weight wise???? Im not really interested in cat sneaze slow load but something usable for small/light skinned game or plinking would be great....currently I use BP for this job,its a heck of a lot of fun...but man is is dirty and rusts gun very quickly...
as said in above post...pressure levels with trail boss make me reluctant to use it for this job....
looking at equivilent charts..the above are SIMILAR to red n green dot....
normally Im a paper book load data sort of a guy,but you lot have got me thinking on this one.
5.5RedDot with a 165 grain cast bullet in 3Attachment 3164010/30 Winchester