The ideal rifle would be an original 1885 High Wall Winchester in 30-40 Krag. I saw one once on Gun broker, bid on it and got sniped at the last minute. Made me mad. I have one of the "new" Winchester 1885's in 300 WSM but that is for shooting the cursed copper colored metal do dads with..... The new Winchester 1885 trapper is about worthless with that little short barrel. I dont want to spend $1500 on a rifle I would have to re-barrel at once.