got to get one of those 113 soup can.
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got to get one of those 113 soup can.
RCBS 150 gr. Cowboy Boolit mould (part #82302), 7 grains Trail Boss powder, and Winchester Large Pistol primers. I use linotype alloy to cast these. Also use SPG lube, but alox works well also. Size to .310
I was just rereading this thread an it struck me how many definitions there are of "plinking load". The more experienced already know, but I feel the need to state some basic physics. First- trajectory is purely a resultant of velocity and gravity. Assuming gravity to be a constant over the range of the projectile, trajectory is a product of velocity. Of course the velocity is reduced by air resistance, which is influenced by ballistic coefficient, etc, etc. the largest factor that we control is muzzle velocity. Second- at the same applied pressure, in the same gun, a lighter projectile will attain a higher muzzle velocity than a heavier projective. Here it gets rather complicated in that MOST plinking loads use a quicker powder than full power loads. Just as a generality, though, the same charge of the same powder will give close to the same pressure with the heavier projectile having more pressure than the lighter projectile. Third- if you want lighter recoil, near the same trajectory and use less powder and lead, you have to push a lighter projectile at a higher velocity. The velocity needs to be the same or slightly higher tha your full power load. If you are just after less recoil, you can use a heavier projectile at reduced velocity. In doing this you will have to compensate your point of aim for the different trajectory. And that comes full circle to the definition of a "plinking round". The point being, before you can know if a load meets your objective, you really need to define your objective better than a generic term with no one definition for everyone.
Of course all of the above is my opinion and is extremely simplified. Be advised that sometimes what you read is not what I was thinking when I wrote it, I'm no wordsmith!
I use the Lee TL-314-90-SWC, sized to .311 with LLA or 45/45/10 over 7.0grains of Trailboss, works beautifully. THat is it in my avatar. This load is doing 1480fps.
This has some target pictures and some tips form Larry Gibson and blixen on seating these little boolits:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...and-trail-boss
I reloaded these years ago. I used 8.5gr of unique with a 113 gr Lee Soup Can. Nice shooting load.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1.../DSCF0272a.jpg
Yesterday I shot my first Lee C309 170 F's sized to .310 loaded at 8,9 and 10 grains of Unique. Rifle used was a Win 94 30/30. The 10 grain load grouped less then 1/2 inch at 50 yards but shot 10 inches low and 4 inches right of where the rifle is sighted in for 170 gr jacketed loads. Recoil was about like a 22 LR. I did hit the 10 x 12 steel at 100 yards with a couple rounds but there was quite a bit of hold over. All in all a cheap light plinking load which is fun to shoot but plan on adjusting the rifle sights.
Just ordered the 113 gr Lee Soup Can, and the .311 round ball, let the fun begin, thanks all for your suggestions. HC
I got in on this group buy and IMO, it was a good one. Maybe someone has a extra mold for sale.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...-311316-NOE-GB
how do you size a .309 to a .310?
From what I have found my Lee molds throw larger bullets. The .309 throws .310 to .311, the .401 throws .402 and a .358 mold I have throws .360. I use COWW's so that might help as the molds throw about 5 grains heavy give or take except for the 240 grain 44 mold which throws right at 240. Go figure that one of the biggest bullets throws right on and the .40 175 grain mold throws 5 grains heavy. The C309 170 throws at 175 +- .5 grains taken from weighting the first 300 I casted.
I sized mine to .311. I think that's what you need for the Marlin's micro-groove barrels. In the Group buy, one could order the molds in .312 and .314. I ordered mine in .314 and sized down.
what is COWW's?
It stands for clip on wheel weights.
swamp
Oh not cream of wheat wheat, ha ha thanks. HC
anyone ever use 800x or sr7625?
For cheap shootin' it's tough to beat Bullseye and the Lee Soup Can or Lyman 311008. Even works on the Chickens in silhouette matches and will usually take down the pigs too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbRsCaLvpEQ
Us it for Grouse too. Even my 1893 likes it.
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psc48f9256.jpg
Nice takedown, Mr. Spurzon...
Nice shhootin