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I have both a B.S. and a Master's degree in meteorology and have worked in the field of atmospheric science for my entire career, almost 30 years. What do I believe regarding climate change? I don't know. I simply do not know.
I just open the door and go jezuz it's damn cold out there.
I can't wait for it to get above 33-34 i'd settle for it to just stop snowing 4 day's a week.
Sometimes people want to try to use facts and mix in some emotional hype to to create something "terrible" that just does not really pan out if you just stop and look at the big picture.
Can climate change happen? Thats pretty easy for most anyone to answer. Just look at the evidence of the past, and it is pretty obvious that it has happened.
Will climate change happen again? If it happened before, there is a really good chance it will happen again.
Does any of the above really matter? Highly unlikely. Think about the causes of significant climate changes in the past. Probably a number of different causes. There are probably more than a few "just as likely causes" that have not happened yet. My bet is that few if any of the causes are even close to being understood. My bet is also that the most probably cause of the next significant climate change will just "happen" with no help from mankind (if mankind is still around) and there will be very little that mankind will be able to do about it.
Do we need to try to avoid "spoiling the planet"? Yes. However, I seriously doubt that we truly understand whether mankind's CO2 contribution is bad (significantly adding to an upward trend), negligible (small potatoes compared to past natural green house gas releases that did not cause problems), or possibly even good (helping to slow or put off the next ice age).
Some stuff that we lump in under the big term of "pollution" really is bad and needs to be cut back and/or eliminated. Other things are probably more hype than real.
I watched a show the other day where they gave evidence of past global cooling and warming cycles of the Earth. The cooling cycles involed ice ages .Some occured before man.
The fellow said that right now we should be heading into another ice age...but we're not !
I fail to see where avoiding an ice age is a bad thing. I don't like ice ages, frozen ground , ice , sleet and snow....no thank you I'll take warm weather any day.
After going through hurricanes , tornadoes and floods, I believe man has over rated his ability to control the weather...heck man can't even make it rain or stop raining....you realy think we can change the Earth's temperature ? I don't think so !
I'm all for global warming if it gives me warmer winters. I hate shoveling snow. I can deal w/ the heat in the summer. It just means less working for long periods in the sun.
The truth is that the earth has been going through natural heating and cooling cycles for billions of years. The impact that we've had in it can't be measured at this time. We're talking cycles that take thousands of years. Models based on past ice core readings have some validity. But all it takes is a volcano eruption or two to really dump a lot of bad things into the atmosphere.
We should wean ourselves off fossil fuels for many reasons. But forcing it on is does nothing but create a divide in people. Unfortunately climate change has been politicized like many other things.
there IS quite often a Deer outside my house.
it is usually checking out the garbage can for a spare sweater or sweatshirt.
city's and pavement probably contribute to global heating more than anything else we do.
if the SJW's really cared about the planet they should maybe stop begging for gas money on their way to protest the oil company's.
we have been recycling carbon for thousands of years, the colder it is the more we release.
North Texas perspective. First week of Feb woke up to 8degrees one morning. Next morning 35degrees. Third week of Feb mid week low 38/ high 94! Today it started out 28- now it's 70.
No wonder I'm sick. Oh well summer will be here come May or so and leave about October or so. Damn it. I hate Summer. The weather person is correct everyday in summer.
If we can convert an engine to run on Methane, inside the Beltway will be the next Barnett Shale.
Best, Thomas.
I'm in SE PA. There have been many days over 60 this winter. Last week there were a few days over 70 and it dropped back to the 40s over the weekend. This week there were a few days over 75. It dropped back to the thirties today and I'm currently delayed on the tarmac in NY due to a ground stoppage in Philly caused by snow squalls. It's been a roller coaster of a winter. I know of one that's unhappy about having to shovel snow one time this winter. Multiple times a week is the norm.
I have been flying around in the atmosphere for 40+ years. Climate change is real and has been going on since time began. "Man caused" climate change is a scam designed to control populations and take money. The "books" were cooked in order to find a pre-determined outcome.
That being said, you may find it interesting that I see temperatures of ISA+15 C or greater above FL410 on a regular (95% of the time) basis.
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This is at FL450. The "bump" over there is topping 470. ISA+17 that day.
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Here is how I see it. We have two sides of the situation, one is saying that legitimate science which includes real satellite information, is that there is now real warming, and the other side is using spurious information that some of them have skewed or just made up so that they don't have to find real job that wouldn't pay as much as the 'jobs' they have now. We will never have a meaningful dialog until we ALL tell the truth about what the REAL scientific research is telling us. Then we can decide what to do or not to do. The problem is that some of the liberal scientists have put out a lot of just plain lies and this damages the chance to talk things over in an intelligent manner.
Disclaimer:I just finished a bacon pizza with two beers, which may or may not have some small effect on the thread as we know it.
Ole Jack
Al Gore started all this just so he could build a muti thousand dollar home. Guess what it worked. This is a fact not fiction. Just research about his home in Tn.
CD
The climate change discussion has three separate but related parts. People with little info, or with axes to grind (on both sides) often mix them together or ignore selected parts.
1. Is there evidence the climate has changed in post-industrial times?
2. If so, is there evidence that human activity has been a contributing factor?
3. If #2 is so, what can or should be done to slow, correct or reverse it?
Its important to specify which aspect of the discussion you are engaging in.
#1 Opinions are like..well you get the picture.
#2 Yes we have climate change, we have ALWAYS had climate change. In 1000 AD Greenland turned cold Whoa Global Cooling due to too many horse powered horses? How many volcanos have caused climate change, the year without summer ? I wonder if the mesasaur's were disappointed when the inland seas dried up, the deer when the Sahara became desert? The climte will change and we will adapt or not as God sees fit. The sea level rises and we will have to move once again, its life.
#1 I didn't say opinion, I said evidence. Everyone may have an opinion, but most don't have any evidence for them.
Why do the consensus appraticheks have to make up data????
Why lie if you have the "facts" on your side?????
Are you referring to "Climategate?" And are you saying data is fabricated about the existence of climate change, or about the cause?