Looks like your set for winter. For summer wear with the T-shirt a "belt slide" can easily be made for one speedloader to fit on the belt right behind or in front of the holster depending whether you wear it in the 3 or 4 o'clock position.
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Looks like your set for winter. For summer wear with the T-shirt a "belt slide" can easily be made for one speedloader to fit on the belt right behind or in front of the holster depending whether you wear it in the 3 or 4 o'clock position.
I believe I used the safarilands also for my J frames. no knob to turn drop in and push to release the rounds and let drop, very fast and compact for a speedloader. Kind of a pain to load until you get used to them though. I have used speed strips HKS safariland and loose rounds in a pocket depending on requirements. Don't discount the loose rounds either. One plus is you can top off the revolver if needed not discarding loaded ammo in a situation where its limited.
The big thing is to practice with what you use, ALOT to the point you can reload in a dark room with out looking or thinking it needs to be muscle memory. This with any form of reload you might be using. Practice makes the reload smooth and smooth is fast. Do this with dummy rounds not live ammo.
The fastest reload for a handgun is a second handgun LOL
Nobody called you foolish for carrying a revolver or I am a fool too.
My message was that if you want to pocket carry a speedloader ditch something you carry now like the nail clipper. If you want a bulge that conceals less well belt carry the reload. Or the tools. If your pockets still have no room after ditching the nail clipper you can't do everything pocket carry.
My comments assume no coat is worn.
Point made. I carry the speed strips in empty back pockets. I’m just looking for something to carry these “smallish”? speedloaders, maybe under a T-shirt, maybe under a light jacket? I honestly don’t know? This time of year I can “conceal carry” a damn AR under my duster! So I get it may not be the prettiest of means, but it would be a wonder to find at least one decent pouch that you could carry weak side, is that too much to ask? If it is I guess I’ll have to design and build what I need!
This is crazy, it shouldn’t be this hard to find a halfway concielable speed loader pouch!
In my worst case scenario it is July and I am wearing a T shirt. Under those conditions a belt or waist carried speedloader looks like I am growing a boob on my waistline and it prints way more than a revolver butt when said revolver is carried appendix IWB. Under those conditions the speedloader rides in my back right pocket.
Cold weather is no problem. Carry in an accessible coat pocket. Since I use my dominant hand with a speedloader I carry on that "strong" side.....right side hoodie pocket or jeans jacket, for instance since I am right handed. Cold weather gives carry options warm weather does not.
The problem is that the words "concealable" and "speed loader pouch" do not go together well unless there is a cover garment atop it. Speedloaders are as wide as the cylinder, a pouch adds two thicknesses of leather or other material to the width of the speedloader, and the whole assemblage is a big wart projecting from your side at the waistline.
If conditions are such that a belt carried handgun is covered by a bulky garment then a belt located speedloader is fine and conceals well. If it is T shirt weather your side or front has a visible growth on it.
If Im going to carry a speedloader for a pocket gun, just as soon carry another pocket gun. My reloads for airweights are bianchi speed strips
Back in the day when the FBI and other Federal agencies carried revolvers, there was a company which made a molded speed loader "keeper" which encircled the speed loader on the belt, such that three rounds were inserted INSIDE the belt and three rounds were OUTSIDE, and the molded, 1" wide leather keeper encircled the speed loader on the belt, and released one snap by raising a thumb tab, as you lifted the HKS or Safariland speed loader off the belt.
I don't remember who made these, I believe Buchheimer, and haven't seen a new one in years.
My old ones are falling apart... and are unmarked.
I recall seeing a setup somewhat like that myself, but yeah, not recently. Oh well. Belts are not summer compatible for me. Need a little breeze goin' on if you know what I mean. Spring fall and winter, sure.
Admittedly I am summer-centric in my carry thoughts. I see it as most inconvenient then. I carry a bigger pistol in the cooler months.
Yeah, I hear ya. I'm a Carharts and suspenders kind of guy these days most of the time, unless it's BDU shorts and suspenders...
Pocket holsters for EDC are my best friend and speed strips don't print in the watch or knife pocket. My fall and winter coats have built-in suspension straps which allow the shoulders support the weight of a holstered full-sized handgun without the coat pulling or the gun printing. One of the advantages of knowing a skilled Vietnamese tailor who learned his trade from the very best.
Well at least things are getting interesting now!
I have to admit strips and hot summer days or field use of the pistol go together really well. Pocket carry may give you a leg up on the draw in a lot of instances. This may beat flinging a garment out of the way.
I believe these are what you gents are looking for:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/13...e-5-shot-black
I have one I use when I carry my S&W 629
I am curious & this is likely the subject of another topic... But, although I understand completely the "Concealed" part of CCW permits. I have a couple questions...
At what point does it matter if your "concealed" firearm, or speedloader, "Prints" or not?
And... why would it make any difference in a state that allows Open as well as Concealed?
I think I can understand that one does not want to "stand out" among others if carrying. For more than one reason.
If ya want to wear one, do so. ( Permit or not IMO, btw. ;) I stand for Const. Carry for all. )
But I am not so sure I understand this "printing" & why it is so important....
Maybe it is my mindset, since I live in a rural area, do not care if someone open carries or not & am not in, or putting myself into situations on a semi or regular basis where I feel concerned enough to carry all the time.
I also don't look at folks, ( although I am pretty observant) to see if I think they are carrying or not. IOW, If ya had a speedloader sticking out a little somewhere around your beltline, I prolly would not care nor notice. It could be a multi-tool case or a pepper spray case, a colostomy bag, or whatever...
I wear a fixed blade knife on my belt 99.9 % of the time, both here rural & even in the big city( 80k + and Liberal as hell ta boot) and no one seems to give a hoot. Not one person has asked me in years about it. Including the LEOs...
So, although it is a bit of a sidetrack, I am curious about some of the ""whys" this "printing" is so important to some.
I am not trying to cause an issue, nor to hijack the topic. I can delete this post if necessary & asked by the OP, sawinredneck.
But if anyone wants to help out to explain & educate me, here, unless it is a "no no", that'd be great.
:)
Some people will not notice. Others are looking. Not printing is for the lookers.
Great link on the belt split speedloader. Still carry it in my pocket for summer tho. One less thing rubbing on my waist is good, and as I said no belts in the summer for me. Maybe a spring fall thing with a light jacket.
The original KS law allowed for no printing at all, unless open carried. They have since revised that law and we are now afforded some wiggle room. But that’s not my main concern, the entire point of CCW is the element of surprise, nothing more.
Say you are “open carrying” in your local bank, after or during taking out the guard you are another high priority target to establish control now!
Say you’ve got a rig that “prints well” in this situation you are target number three, and are either killed or disarmed with a quickness. Much like the guards.
Say you go shopping at a “less than” gun friendly city, your gear prints, no matter your adjustments and you get called out, spend the night in the clink and have to fight to prove you are innocent. All without even pulling the firearm!
It’s a wicked game we play!
I have HKS loaders for my 696 that I do use for IDPA. Uncle Mikes Speed Loader Holders on the belt.
As far as technique goes, just watch Jerry Miculek and do what he does. He is probably the best there is and what he does is easily learned. You might not be quite as fast but it still works and if you practice you can get pretty fast,,, pretty fast.
Randy
I had a LCR - I tried the HKS speed loaders and they worked ok with it s long as you angled them in to the cylinder - my issue was with the HKS speed loaders. I carried them OWB in a nylon pouch and when i would pull them out, they would dump the cartridges 90% of the time as I had to grip them by the knob to pull them out. I dumped the LCR in favor of a Smith 36 J frame Chief's Special. The HKS speed loaders will work but I never use them now. I have speed strips but much prefer to just use a single leather "dump pouch" to carry spares. If I don't feel comfortable carrying the 5 shot J frame, I will carry my Shield with a spare mag OWB.
The LCR or a J frame are good carry pieces but I consider that if more than 5 shots are necessary, the situation will rarely allow for a quick reload of a revolver unless you are "under cover" from the perp's fire. And, I can change out a mag on a semi much faster than reloading a revolver regardless of what I use - just my personal thoughts as I know my own limitations when it comes to re-loading a revolver given my hands and abilities with a speed loader, speed strip or drop pouch. I carry OWB all the time and usually shirt tail or a jacket tail covers with no printing. I have to carry too much stuff in my pants pockets to eve think about carrying ammo there and for me, it is much quicker to get to OWB as far as mag pouch or drop pouch than it would be for me to fumble around in my coat or jacket pockets. That's the price of being older and having some hand issues.