Originally Posted by
TES
OK...it is Christmas so I have not been doing anything on the computer for a day or so.
I last had a conversation with Swamprat and he did send me some of his bullets. My concerns were the arid and very cold climate here and that it does strange things to plastics and polymers that don't happen anywhere else.
Now...my intentions are not to discount anyone's successes with this product. It must work for some or else it would have been quickly discounted as a fraud.
However..yes Donnie's bullets are flaking like glitter with the smash test. I have had them since ??feb?? of this year. They did not fail when I first got them. whic is why i bought the product from him. This leads me to believe that with time and our climate they will not work here. I have literally coated about 20,000 projectiles that pass acetone and smash when made and only after 3 months of sitting in my boxes in my shop I am getting a failure of the coating.
Maybe I have hard fingernails....it's possible mine are harder than most.
Maybe my FCD is made by lee
Maybe it could be a lot of things.
Let me tell you what I am...
I'm frustrated beyond belief that this simple coating seems to work for a month or two HERE.
I am frustrated that no matter who's bullets I use they will or will probably lead my barrels.
I have used traditional lead cast and lubed in my g19 that have leaded less.
I have tried everything from soft to ridiculously hard lead all with multiple variations (5-1-5, 5-1-6, 5-1-7)of the coating (yes scientifically with from 5 to 20 min bakes @ 360 - 420) only to get another verdict on why it failed for yet another reason.
I do want to apologize for making my frustrations know here on this forum.
I do not feel like it was the best way to voice my frustrations... but I am now looking at restructuring my entire production line because I was not able to make this work for me here.
Out of the .."god only knows" thousands of rounds that I have made with cast, plated and FMJ bullets I have never heard so many "why this didn't work" scenarios.
I'm done with this..for me it is just simply way to much of a question mark in my mind for a start up ammo company.
The biggest one being out of all of the advice here (there are pages of it) why are none of these trouble shooting answers or advice listed on the product sheet. Why isn't the LFCD mentioned as a possible failure point before the point of purchase?
Love life..if you want to send me some...my address is still posted...I did not say "do not send these without an invitation."
Anyone else that would like to send some bullets for Cold/Dry weather testing lets do it. I would love to see if it is just "Here" that is the problem. Maybe it is something simple..maybe not.
To date everything that I have made or has been sent to me that has sat in this climate for more than 3 months is failing. ( no I never let the coating in the bottle freeze just the bullets)
You see I was doubting myself for weeks pulling my hair out....then I remembered that I had about 15 or so BB left in a drawer. Well then I got mad and I probably should not have. But then again maybe I have every right to be mad. This is requiring a total rethink on every decision that I have made to date.
end crickets.
Sorry...Donnie I think you are 1000% a stand up guy. I don't doubt you at all. I just wish that it was a simple coating for me. If there is a way to figure this out...I do not think it is going to be easy. If you are willing....lets put it through the paces.....hopefully before I smelt everything and have to sell it.