A good post on long cylinder .41s...
http://singleactions.proboards.com/t...41-mag-finally
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A good post on long cylinder .41s...
http://singleactions.proboards.com/t...41-mag-finally
Long barrel .414 SM and a Bisley at 100 yards...
http://singleactions.proboards.com/t...sights?page=14
http://singleactions.proboards.com/t...sights?page=15
Other .41s...
http://singleactions.proboards.com/t...-sights?page=4
A quick question for all of you; is the .41 special that is being referred to the same round my old manuals call the .41 long Colt?
Thanks.
No , the 41 Long Colt is a different case. The 41 Special we are talking about is a 41 mag case cut down to 44 Special length. Starline has/had correct head stamped brass in stock recently.
I believe the .41 long Colt is a heel type bullet too similar to the .22 rimfire.
.41 Colt or .41 Long Colt, the Bullet was only like .386 or so in diameter...the Cartridge Case was around .405 in diameter.
.41 Magnum, the Bullet is .410...the Cartridge case is like .434 or so in diameter.
.41 Magnum is one of the few Hand Gun Cartridges where the Bullet really is the size of the Cartridge name.
shot some 208 gr HPgc boolits out of my Tracker-- I was using 8.5 gr of AA#2 have not really tried it out yet as to accuracy but it perceived recoil was sharper than I expected with that lower charge-- the recoil is overall not bad-- between the grippers grips and the ported barrel-- but the sharper recoil surprised me...I have been shooting 12.5-13 grains of AA#9 -- it does have more over all recoil but less sharp-- I try to be nice to this small 5 gun --so hence the noticing of the recoil -- I have been concerned about the air space of AA#2 -- so I may not use it any more-- any thoughts any one--cases are trimmed to 1.15
AA#2 is like tight group, it does not really care if it is lit by a spray or just a spark, it burns quite quickly. We did some testing with some various cartridges both pistol and rifle with powder location, very small quick burning charges.
Thanks for the replies on the .41 colt.
thanks for the thoughts Ron..
You can also try 6.0-7.0 Tight Group, 6.5-7.0 HP38/W231, 6.0-8.0g Long shot. Now, those may be too low for you, I tested these with our new wadcutter so we would have some basic data for those that re-load. The OAL cart. length with these loads is 1.280, so the bullet is taking up a lot of the case volume. Since you are shooting a more traditional bullet, there is less shank in the case, but that should give you some good starting points. Velocities ran in the 900-1050 area.
thanks again
My "guess" is that the faster burning powder gets the velocity to the same level as the slower burning powder but more quickly therefor the more initial recoil.
Except for "target" velocity loads I don't use anything slower than Unique in .41 and larger cases...
Bob
I have been using Titegroup in handgun ctgs for about 6 years now & I really like it. It won't give magnum velocities, but will give very good accuracy with middle of the road velocities. A good powder, it measures through a measure very accuratly too.
I have over the years used Herco-- and it does well, as well as 800x and it also does very well --I just happen to have the AA#2--so I am trying to use it. a pound of that is a lot of shootin at 7-8 gr-- I have two different Keiths as well as the hp and solid Mia mold-- the plain base have not performed as well as I would like-- it is ported and that is supposed to be hard on plain base-- -- but the Mia mold gives me four different variations of the same lwngc
I've found Herco to be almost as good as Unique.
I've compiled most of the loads submitted to this thread and some from other online sources and manuals into a sortable Excel spreadsheet. Approximately 200 loads listed.
If you want to receive a copy drop me a PM with your email address and I'll send it to you. I really don't have a way to post a link for a downloadable copy that doesn't lose most of it's features. The file is viewable in free online spreadsheet applications like Google Sheets but the sortability feature is not available.
I must stress that you verify these loads before using them and I am not responsible for your use of this data. Use of this information is solely at your own risk!
Version 2 of the spreadsheet is available.
I spent the day inputting more data and now there are almost 290 cast and 175 jacketed loads.
Please PM me here through castboolits system instead of through Tap-A-Talk so I can keep track of requests better.
If you requested the first version I have already sent you the V2.
I have printed out a few copies. Drop me a PM with your address if you want one.
Got to cast with a friend last week...one of the bullets was a MeHic TruShot .41/265 grain solid... Loaded it along with some 0f the gas chcked version with pentapoint weight 256 grains over 21.0 grains of H110. Velocity from a 5.5" barrel should be in the mid 1300s...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...psirkz2ypm.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...psso5vcy5h.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...psq2y7h0op.jpg
...have a happy casting season!!
Bob
Wow those ought to leave a mark.
Bet they'll really whack whatever you shoot!
If anyone has a Ranch Dog 265 load using 2400 I sure would appreciate it if you could share it.
I compiled almost all the loads in this thread and many others into the spreadsheet but there is nothing like what I am looking for as most of the 265 grain 2400 loads are max loads.
I'd like to use 2400 to push them about 1000 fps.
Thanks.
41...my experience with 2400 using it for less than max loads is that it leaves a LOT of unburned powder behind.
Bob
Highway41, try 8 grains unique.
Just happened into my first 41 Mag. I wanted to develop a decent magnum load and a 41 "Special" load using magnum brass. No surprise on the magnum load; AA9 did the best combination of accuracy, velocity, and consistency with what I tried. I had replaced Unique with Power Pistol some years ago for all of its applications so I just tried one PP load to see what it would do in the 41. At 7.9 grains, 215 cast SWC it averaged 1079 with an extreme spread (slowest shot difference to the fastest shot) of 22 FPS across 10 shots while printing under 1.5" groups @ 25 yards. I did not do the gun justice as I am convinced it could go under one inch if I could do better on the iron sights. Revolver is a 5.5" Redhawk.
Nice...had a 5.5" Redhawk many years ago. Just replaced it last year with one of the 4.2" guns... Probably the toughest DA .41 made...
Welcome to The Cult...
Bob
That's an awesome gun to happen into. My birthday/Christmas present this year was a 5.5" Redhawk 41. Just got word my cylinders (got both the RH and the BH reamed) are on their way back from Doug. Just need to find time to load up some boolits now.
Like RJM said, welcome to the 41er cult.
Thanks Bob and Highway41. I used the term happened into because I had 3 of the same model of 22 rifle the guy wanted to trade for. It was ideal for me as he included the original box for the Redhawk, a set of Lyman carbide dies, a shell holder, about 800 cast bullets, 6 boxes of 210 JHP bullets, and about 120 pieces of brass. This made adding another caliber much simpler. I did order another 500 pieces of Starline brass that should be here this week. Should be good to go for a while with the brass. Now I am watching NOE sales notices for a good 41 mold........:-D
I highly recommend the 250g WFN It shoots like a dream in all my .41's from the high velocity GNR and 414SM as well as from the Mag and Special. Lots of bearing surface there on that one.
I've been playing with the Lee 195gr SWC & the 210gr SWC TL.
So far they are not bad.
...anyone powder coating .41 bullets?
There is a thread on powder coating bullets here in our forum. I've read it several times & though I haven't tried it, it seems pretty straight forward & not too complicated. There is even a thread of pictures of powder coated bullets here on the forum. One day I'd like to try it, but haven't yet. Check them out they are interesting.
Attachment 184922I have had good luck with the lee 195-SWC powdercoated over win296 powder.
Thekid, that looks nice.
Anybody here using the RCBS 215 gr SWC I'm looking for loads using 2400 or Unique.