What size are you guys making the slot in the ram?
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What size are you guys making the slot in the ram?
i could not find the size for the slot listed, so i made it .500" . looks like it will work.
It's buried and it's 3/8". It is #194 on page 19.
Ogotz
thank you ogots. i looked twice and did not see that. oh well, if i break it i have enough bar stock left to make another one.
Press problems,
I finished my press and attempted to swage my first bullet. It did not work. The ram fell short by about an inch and that is after adding a one inch adapter to the ram. The press has 6” of full swing and I am using BT Sniper’s dies and adapted the ejector to fit the press (1 inch adapter). I need more force at the bottom of the swing and just don't have it. I read that ANeat made the first press with 18” toggle bars and it looks like he may of had an 18” ram. (If this is not correct, please say so) This short setup would have been better for me. I figure I can drill another set of holes on the toggle bar and this should more than make up the difference. Is anyone else having this problem?
I drilled another set of holes three inches down and moved the ram to the second set of holes. I finally started making bullets. The next task is to make a base that will not flex. This thing is huge and the force flexes my bench when I use it.
I have been foolowing this thread and am about ready to start building my own press. But I have a question. I want to make my own dies to be used to swage pure lead Paper Patched bullets. Are there any threads here talking about that or does anybody know how to do it?
Any you guys have one for sale?
Have been working on mine for a while now, it's coming along. I am at the point now that I need to make a stand for it in order to proceed further. I am making two, the other is not as far along as this one. here is an old pic, should take another to show further progress and a change I made in the long arms.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...S/IMAG0018.jpg
The bolt seen sticking out from the top plate behind the handle is actually a pin removal tool. I drilled the pivot pins with a 9/32" drill for 75% of it's length, then drilled the rest with a #7 drill and tapped it 1/4-20. This allowed me to use the bolt to remove the pins simply by screw the bolt in which pushes the pin out. During assembly I found that very handyl.
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does anyone have a copy of the plans?
this link does not seem to work.
http://mattmorgan.org/cb_press_v2.pdf
My server is down. There should be a copy posted in this thread somewhere.
Matt
"My server is down"
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found them on page 10.
:coffeecom
time to get some steel
Finally getting some real progress done on mine. (getting some dies provided great motivation!)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...3/IMG_9974.jpg
Why bother with four jaw chucks and bis taps when you can just mill the 1/2-12 threads?
Before:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...3/IMG_9976.jpg
After:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...3/IMG_9977.jpg
I also made two extra 1/2-12 to 7/8-14 adapters if anyone wants to trade some brass or lead for one PM me.
So I look at the Corbin presses, both David and Richards and I think, ok, that is fair, they had development costs and so on, makes sense that they would want a fair price for their products. Then I goes to the bank account and low and behold there is not enough there to buy all the stuff I want to buy from these very smart guys. No sweat, I will just build a press,,,right? OK, I have the means and the knowledge and probably even the material. So I start designing this press in my head, and this goes on for a couple of weeks just like every big project I do, then it is pretty much built in my head which is how I design everything I build all the way from my wooden escapement clock to my scratchbuilt CNC Mill. Even before I buy any material or cut anything to length, I have it built upstairs. Then I build it, and it looks pretty much exactly like I had envisioned it except for the occasional whoops. So when I stumbled across this awesome thread about two hours ago, I was very disappointed. I was very disappointed that I hadn't done nearly as good a job on my pre-game design as ANeat has done. Hats off to ANeat and mattm for doing a great service to all who are interested in building one of these. You guys did a great thing here. Thank you very much. Thanks also to those of you who have built this press and shared pictures with us. I will post pics when mine is done.
Has anyone modified one of these presses to run CSP-1 dies?
The ram thread reducer is gravy, but I'm unsure how the ejection dies are held in the ram on te CSP-1 presses.
Hey guys; Just wanted to stop in and say hello, havent been on the forum much.
Also wanted to say thanks to the guys for showing the pics of the press they are building. You folks are doing some fantastic work.
I had a lot of input from other members when we were discussing building something like this and that helped make the press turn out so well from the beginning.
My original press is still in use and holding up just fine Im happy to say. Havent broken or had to replace anything.
I did end up re-shaping a lot of hard cast bullets and added the 2nd handle so I use both hands on the really though stuff.
just wanted to say i am new here but i have been reading with great interest , i have just started cutting all my parts for this great build and i will add to the post with my addition ,thanks in advance and i cant wait to start swaging, wayne
A small air/hyd rig should not run over $100. We use 20 and 30 ton rigs but you could get by with much less power. Retraction might have to be assisted also. Thanks for the pics and info. Needing a 50 press ASAP myself. May just go simple with an Arbor press as I will not be loading many with it.
Always thought a well placed 3rd hole between the swaging and reloading modes (high & low gear) on this press would be perfect for sizing military .50 BMG brass. Then switch to reloading mode to seat the bullets if necessary. UP North should be marketing this thing to the .50 crowd. This will swage BMG bullets won't it? You could do it all on one press.
I am going to online metals in Ballard on Monday to purchase the first of the materials. I probably have what it takes to make one press, but not the two that I intend to make right away. Besides, it is way better to work with new material which is purchased for the job.
You missed a great yard sale today at my house. I sold two reloading presses, some extra scales and all sorts of stuff.
ANeat, a question: (and if I've missed the answer after studying this thread I apologize)
Why didn't you drill and counterbore the toggle bar for socket headed capscrews perhaps as big as 5/16-24, and drill and tap the linkage pieces correspondingly, then put in socket head cap screws in the holes to hold it all together and make the whole toggle assembly even more strong and secure?
This isn't to question your work, I just had the idea a few days ago, and needed to ask you what you thought of the idea, sir...?
Jim
Sorry, double tap ;)
Hi Jim; That would work, and I think someone here built one like that. To me welding up the toggle was quicker than drilling and taping all the holes.
But If I didnt have the welder that would have been the way to go.
As far as strength, I think the whole thing is overkill (a good thing)
On mine Ive added a 2nd handle and have swaged some pretty hard lead into bullets, where you lean/press your entire body weight into it.
Nothing has broke on mine, I did bulge out one die that I think I didnt harden properly.;)
On the press I haven't noticed any wear (yet) at the pivot pins but they are getting a shine to them where the black oxide is getting rubbed off but no wear that you can feel or measure
Jim, Here is a pic of the one Latherunner built, bolted together... very nice
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...t/100_3682.jpg
Thanks, ANeat, it does look great.
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Hey my 1st post! been looking a long time,saw where ANeat made the swaging press and got me wanting to make one!I have some 1x6 flat bar don't know if it is hot or cold roll,do you think hot would work ok?,also have some old hyd cyl's I was thinking about using the ram out of.ANeat looks like you did a fine job!
Merry Christmas!!
So what is the stroke in high and low gear now ? Wondering what would be needed to get say 1.5 to 2.0 stroke to run J word bullets through a full form swing lock die....supposedly unless they are annealed first it is a " no flipping way" situation for a Rockchucker. Also if you were to build around a 2" stroke with the ram closer to the die how much shorter would the press be ?
http://swinglock.net/adjustablebsd.php
Here is what the swing lock die looks like
Hope this helps. I don't swage or own a fifty I'm just a huge fanboy. I'm @ the end of my expertise here. If the Swinglock guys are doing .416 bullets on a Redding Ultra Mag surely the Aneat's could do a fifty. Someone else will have to run with this one, I have the itch but not the scratch.Quote:
Originally Posted by u.p. north - Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:55:18 -0500
Actually I will be full forming .416 bullets, but not for a swinglock rifle, but will use the swinglock die. The 3" stroke will be about right maybe for sizing bullets. The 5" distance can be changed in swage mode with the bullet pusher that will thread into the ram, I'm thinking ?
I would be interested in buying one if someone is making an extra. Please Pm me if so. I am skilled enough to make one but as a retired Vet I no longer have the resources I used to. So id like to purchase one or help build one if someone is close to me. Thanks Woody
Ok, finally read to start press number two. I plan on making it a lot shorter. I had to add a set of holes on the support bars and made the shell holder adapter about 3" long. I use 7/8th threads on both, but use the lee cast shell holder adapter. I plan to tac welding the top, bottom, and guide plate before drilling and center drill the guide bars slightly off center so you rotate them until you find the sweet spot that allows everything to move smoothly.
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does anyone swage full metal jackets?
Just a thought on the spring, how about a desiel valve spring from a junk yard for heavy equipment?
great thrd guys. I have set here and read the whole thing nonstop. Also if you all make a top plate for 7/8-14 dies and later want bigger whole just make another plate to swop out. The cold roll plate is pretty cheap.
Thanks for all your input to this thread.
Its easier to stick with the bigger thread, and make adapter/reducer with big and small threads. Thats what i will be doing anyway.
I'm almost done with my press. Last few details are cutting the ram to final length, order bushings for ram and order a ram spring. I don't have dies yet so these details are a bit difficult to figure. Anybody got any suggestions on the spring length or ram length?Attachment 62687
I wanted to play with the model to check operation, so I modeled everything. I'll probably do some new prints at some point as well (no promises though)
There were a few changes I made so far, most based on posts from other users.
- Added second set of holes 4" down to the toggle links for a shorter ram to top plate distance
- Moved the cross brace for the link arms down 1"
- Lengthened the arm to 27" to clear the top of the press
- Added set screw holes to the toggle arms for holding dowel pins in
- Added flats to the arm where the set screw holds it at the toggle bar
- Changed from a threaded end on the arm to a tapped hole and 1.5" set screw
The file is an e-Drawing (think PDF for CAD models) e-drawings viewer download
This allows viewing of the 3D assembly, rotation, measurement, STL file export, show/hide, 3 configurations 3", 3" with short links, 6" strokes. The 6" stroke has an animation.
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