Originally Posted by
1hole
I don't know who you're quoting but, as you state it, it's not me.
Indeed, the abomination that causes desolation in the temple occurs at mid-trib. But all of the other things you try to force in will happen at the end of the Tribulation, not halfway through.
Note that verse 29 in your quote below specifically tells us that what's said there occurs AFTER the Tribulation of those days. The moon/stars stuff, plus the return of the Lord with his church/Bride, clearly comes at the END of the Tribulation.
Do you really think Jesus will return to earth and bring the church with Him at mid-trib? No not "bring the church" he is coming mid-trib to collect the church ie. his elect, his words not mine There would still be 3 1/2 years of the Great Tribulation to unroll, where would He and the Church go to watch the remaining earthly horrors and what would they be doing as they watched? Only a complete moron, maybe an illiterate... or a person being disingenuous and seeking to deceive could read this entire post and think that that is my position. So which of the three are you? NO, your idea of a mid-trib return of Jesus and a Raptured church cannot be true!
The Lord's return to earth to establish a new earthly kingdom centered in a new Jerusalem, with its thousand years of world peace, will clearly be after all of the tribulation disasters and wars, not halfway through them.
So, I say your sequence of events is wrong. Ask yourself; Why would the Lord choose to gather his elect halfway through the Tribulation? Would his angels find and take the living saints or raise the newly dead?? Either way, that's not what scripture says (or even suggests) will happen at the end of the world as we know it and it would make no sense at all for God to send angels out to blow horns and only gather about half of his own people at mid-trib!
Gymnastics? Lunacy? Man, you should lighten up on Matt 24 as if it alone tells us anything about the end times! Good idea... "lighten up" (real words of wisdom right there) on the actual Scripture that "The Church" in real time and face to face went to Christ and said "Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" You are a regular genius!
Reconcile the little of the end times you see in Matt 24 with the books of Daniel and Revelation (and others) Of course you give no specific scripture to learn what Jews - but not us Gentiles! - are taught from infancy. That alone would open your eyes to the bigger picture.