So X. How do you like the dies?
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So X. How do you like the dies?
................As a moderator I know Dan had conversations with 45Nut (Ken) the board owner. Dan understands the responsibilities attached to becoming a Vendor Sponser here at Cast Boolit's, and has stepped up to the plate to become one. Just as the board has rules in place for the Swapping and Selling forum, which were put in place in the board's interest in protecting the member's from fly by night, or "Here and Gone" sellers, ditto the Vendor Sponser, only more so. You have to speak with Ken, as it represents something a bit extra, and Ken has to be comfortable with the individual in order to get the banner.
I'd personally believe that having done so Dan is interested in establishing a reputable operation, and his guarentee appears to establish that. In addition Dan has been a member for almost a year and a half in addiiton to having almost 500 posts. I'd not think it's a ruse but someone genuinely interested in producing a quality product.
If someone purchases his product and is dissatisfied, Dan states his guarantee up front. If that isn't satisfactory you have the option of not buying. If you have an issue communicate with Dan as you would any other Vendor Sponsor, and if that doesn't resolve it, take it to 45Nut.
...................Buckshot
I Googled swage and found the original Thread when there were about 30 pages.
By the time I got caught up on the thread I wanted a set.
I payed for my set before the first set had been shipped.
I liked what I saw, I paid my nickel, and I took my chance.
I liked what I got and said so.
I don't have many posts here because the 2 threads on Danr's dies are the only ones on this site that I have read. I quit casting bullets 30 years ago.
I got an email from Danr asking for feedback, and came to this site to renew my feedback.
The first thing I saw was a string of posts that didn't seem to be from a prospective buyer to me.
In the interest of fairness I looked for another possibility, and I came up with this:
Maybe these guys really want a set of dies, maybe this is Danr's second generation of customers.
People who haven't read the thread on developing the whole thing.
My first clue was when one of the requests was for one of Danr's customers to provide better documentation on his feedback.
Maybe these guys want Danr's dies to be just like Corbins, only cheaper.
Maybe these guys want Danr's documentation to be just like Corbins.
Maybe these guys want to be shrewd and careful consumers, and money back is not enough.
I bought a set of dies. They do what Danr said they would and what I want them to do.
Good luck Danr.
...with shrewd and careful consumers and all other women.
PS: I like Utah's idea: This thread is for people who have a set of dies.
wannabe's go to the other thread please .
Thank you for the review Utah Shooter. That is exactly what I was looking for. In the first video it looks like the bullet in the middle was either crooked or had an uneven base. Is this caused from the differences in rimfire brass or was it just perspective?
Have you used these on any little critters yet? Your review had me seriously considering buying a set of dies from Danr until I read ibgp's post.
I will now take my money elsewhere and I apologize if I got this thread off track.
I have not used any of Dans dies and don't intend to. I also have not used any of BTs dies and don't intend to. I personally have nothing against either gentlemen. I honestly don't have a dog in this fight. I use RCE gear. for my own personal reasons. I do know of Dans reputation from other sites and I have found him to be an honest man. If he says I'll give you your money back he means it he will give you your money back. If you are chewing on what to buy and a reloading press die is the way you opt to go I dont personally see how you could go wrong with if you dont like it send it back for a refund? What more can the guy do?
Thay are working grate i love them i have made about 6000+ i have to load but im cleaning and primeing brass right now and 6000 rd of brass takes time to prep to load
i will be buying a point unform punch
and the outher die sets win danR has finish them for 308cal 9mm 40cal
do not have a 45 but will buy one of thos as well
Thanks Xfox. I guessed it was something like that, but wasn't sure.
I have already posted my results with dan's dies. I would offer to test and report, shooting, but my supply of untouched brass is depleted. I derim before annealing and I have found that the de-rim dies I made and ones I have obtained elsewhere work better for me than Dan's De-rim die. I also have not used Dans Core die much because my cast cores and my other core methods work for my set up. I could certainly point and resize some of my existing stuff using Dan's dies but this may not give anyone the information that they are seeking. Dan specifies that his system is intended to be used all together.
Wow, People will read into anything. I wholly apologize for any inference that was taken. I have no problems with you being a good customer and liking the product. I do take offense at you trying to disparage another board member who has added a significant amount of tutelage here. I've met Duke in person, and he's committed to sharing the passion of Swaging and Reloading. I even made a joke about his influence..
I'm a sponsor of this site because of two reasons. 1) I've learned VERY much about casting boolits here. 2) I can afford to be a sponsor and help pass on this education.
Buckshot is correct. If DanR has done due diligence to become a vendor here, I completely support his efforts. I mentioned that DukeInMaine is on the prowl for a set of dies because I know he is. I also know that I'm in the same search. We've conversed over what makes a good set of swage dies. Just because I've got an extra $40 a year to support this site doesn't mean that I'll throw $400 at a set of dies. Read some of my other posts. I just called the situation as I saw it.
This post should not be taken as instigation for a flame-war. Now that I've made a complete schmuck of myself, I'll stop digging. :drinks:
sorry love life i mist page 9 some how lol
I am not sure what most of the guys on this site are complaining about with these dies.
We have made 5000 or so jacketed boolits using every .22 brands and have had nothing but success with the dies. They have preformed exactly as Danr said they would. The dies have broken in very nicely and have gotten easier to use.I would recomend them to anyone that wants a cheaply priced high quality set of dies for swagging.
These were taken with a iphone so not the best pics but you can see they are uniform and smooth.
If these pics show up they are a sample of some of our boolits they shoot 1/2 inch groups at 50 yds and 1 inch at 100.
We uniformed them to 63 grain and point form them for soft point. the hollow points work well also but do hang on the feed ramps occasionally. working on solving that problem as well.
Thanks Dan. will contact you about another set of each post for backups
Jerry
It is my turn to do a review, complete with some shooting results that others have wanted. First, I am new at this swage game. I have been fortunate to get a set of BT Snipers 45 dies and now Dans. I recieved my dies yesterday and went to work. When I first looked at them I thought they were a little light but I was comparing them to one that do 45's. These dies are rugged and very well made. I did find that I am having trouble with the deriming but will work that out in time. The other dies work great with no effort at all. If it wasn't for the derim you could use these in the lightest of presses. I won't post a bunch of pics cause they look like everyone elses. Well mabe just one! My first impression was the the point was too big but after shooting them I guess not. Should have some explosive expantion. I used molded cores so have not used the core swager. 55 gr finished give or take. I should note that the bullets shot are totaly random with no effort to match. Also, I am not even close to being a bench shooter. These results are from a heavy barreled Rem 700 in 22-250. I started at 25 gr of 414 and ended at 30gr, 5 shots each at 1 gr intervals. I shot off sand bags so not the greatest rest. -7 C with little wind. All were at 100 yds at our range. Now for some pics! The first group is 27 gr of 414, second is 28 gr and the last is 29. 30 gr really opened up and under 27 were about 1.75. I don't have velocities but 37 gr gives me 3800 ft/sec. I did expect the jackets to come of at 30 gr but all stayed intact. I normally shot Hornaday 55 vmax sx and these results are as good or better. 29 gr is a clear winner for now! :D
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In conclusion, if these dies cost $600 I would feel that they were a very good deal. At what Dan is charging for these my advice is to get some ordered before he realizes he is not charging enough or quits making them. For those of you flameing him earlier, well you just don't have a clue. Great product creating a better than expected results, how could it get any better. Good job, Dan and keep up the good work!!
My dies are working great as well. I make 55gr hollow points. The point did seem a bit big but it will expand very well.
As for the derimming die. Make sure you brass is clean and you will have no issues. I put a few hundred brass in a container with Pam non stick spray and it works like a dream.
Great product
wow 29 is a good load it looks good i will have to tri 414 in my AR
Man, I'm really starting to not like you guys at all... You're all conspiring together to make me buy a set of these, and my better-half is gonna rip me a new vent opening for it! :D
NICE!! Very nice!
You know. I have seen some with opinions that like them (that own them), some that hate them (who will not give them the chance) and some that are in between (would like to own them but may not have the funds).
Just like most guns. Until they try them..... They can say I heard of this or that or I like this aspect or dislike that one... But they will never know until they try them.
I do not personally own them. I have done a review of the projectiles the dies make and can see some really good projectiles.
I wished Dan could send me more to test. But in the long run have no issues with the Corbin set that I own so I can see as to why he would not. I am just frankly not a potential buyer. But bet he would if I asked.
I am currently looking for a set to make .308 projectiles accurate out to 600 yards. I do think one day Dan will come up with a way to do that as well with some of his dies. He seems to be the sort of guy that will keep on keeping on.
Until that day perhaps!
From what I understand it is not the meplat of the projectile that causes the expansion. It is the HP space between the meplat and where the actual lead starts that helps with expansion.
I have shot 55 gr projectiles from 22lr brass that did not expand as well as I thought. I then moved to 53 gr projectiles and could see the difference of expansion between the 2.