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  • Vettepilot's Avatar
    Today, 04:36 PM
    @DoubleBuck: Nice testing!! Not everyone has the time, or the patience for such great testing, and testing is the only thing that tells us what's truly going on, what really works and how well, etc. Great work! Vettepilot
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    Today, 04:19 PM
    QUOTE=almar;5281728]maybe, maybe not...depends on expectations. On another note, I keep samples of previous powders I made to retest. That one on the top, the 78-12-10 still spits out 850 fps for a 25 grain by weight charge as measured...
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    Today, 03:58 PM
    Those numbers are amazing Almar. Really amazing. But yeah; it's worrying what happened with the last batch. Consistency is paramount. Absolutely critical. Hopefully it was just lack of mill time. My thoughts are-->excessive mill time can't...
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    Yesterday, 06:10 PM
    Ok, so your home made powder faired well. That's great!! But what about the QUAIL?? ;~) Vettepilot P.S. Not that it matters, but when I load black powder shotshells, I use 80 to 85 grains of powder under 1-1/8 or 1-1/4 oz. of shot. But...
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    10-16-2021, 08:36 PM
    Nice!! That's so cool. I want one!! So, how long does it take to cook a paint can of wood at 550 in your kiln? How long does it take to get to 550? The other day I cooked a batch of Alder smoking chips I'm going to test. These chips were...
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    10-16-2021, 05:45 PM
    I will try to get a picture of that media posted today. It's much larger than the HF photo would have you think. I believe Harbor Freight only has the one size, but similar media in other sizes is available elsewhere. Vettepilot
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    10-16-2021, 05:38 PM
    Well, the problem with attempting to load cartridges with our BP is where the bulk density of the granulated powder comes into play. Modern brass cartridges have less internal volume than the old black powder cases, due to being made stronger to...
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    10-15-2021, 05:20 PM
    Hey there Indian Joe. So loading in this manner, with a .45 cal revolver and your screened powder, just out of curiosity, what velocities do you get? Thanks! Vettepilot
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    10-14-2021, 05:19 PM
    If you're only shooting front stuffers, my advice would be go back to a for sure 1.7 g/cc density, take whatever granular density that gives you, and go enjoy the more powerful, cleaner powder you created. JMHO Vettepilot
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    10-14-2021, 05:15 PM
    Ha! Yeah, I'm pretty sensitive to others, and sometimes too much for myself. When I get to the point you're at, I have to FORCE myself to walk away, and come back in a few days with a fresh head. It's dam hard for me to do, but when I succeed...
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    10-14-2021, 03:39 PM
    Great post, and I agree entirely. This is it "in a nut shell" and in one post. ALMAR: You're sounding a touch exasperated, and rightly so. But you're right there with all this. Just consolidate what you have and what you know. If I were you,...
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    10-14-2021, 03:07 PM
    Here's some more interesting info from some others whom are pondering densities: https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/blackpowder-density.44034/ Vettepilot
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    10-14-2021, 02:35 PM
    Well, surely the oft quoted 1.7 g/cc is black powder as a mass; not as a granulated powder. The granulated powder is full of air spaces! I would think the only judge of granulated powder density, would be as ChrisPer said; the ~100 +/- grain...
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    10-14-2021, 06:11 AM
    Regarding your question on your grain size, you might try checking Swiss powder, on your grading screens. And yeah; everything I've ever read had the volume of the (commercial) powder in grains, right at 1:1 give or take a little, with the weight...
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    10-14-2021, 01:27 AM
    Hmmm... Seems like we're missing something here. My understanding is the factories use around 3500 pounds per square inch, and that's what it takes to get the sulphur to plasticize. You figure the square inch area of your die, multiply by 3500,...
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    10-13-2021, 08:50 PM
    Well that's a handy discovery. Do whatever it takes to get to your density mark on the die, and you're golden. How's the process exactly? Measure/weigh going in and...? I just cooked up almost 2 pounds of Alder smoking chips I had bought at a...
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    10-13-2021, 04:18 PM
    But (this part of it) is so dam ugly!! (And hotter than "the hinges of hell.") :~( Vettepilot
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    10-13-2021, 03:29 PM
    I really enjoyed that book! ("Sixguns") It's a great read and I highly recommend it. I've got "Never for the want of powder", which is about the Rebel powder works during the civil war. The book wasn't really a fun read; too loaded with...
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    10-13-2021, 12:02 AM
    Yeah, thanks for the link. I ordered a printed copy for my reference library as well. As regards compression, yeah, I've given that some thought too. I've thought of making a ram rod that gives an audible beep when you hit where you want to be....
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    10-12-2021, 05:26 PM
    A while back, I began an adventure to make a little pistol for back yard plinking. The idea was to use 22 cal air gun pellets, launched with a magnum shotgun primer. Just short range; like camp or back yard plinking at cans. The 22 cal for air...
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    10-12-2021, 05:14 PM
    Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I think I can come up with a quicky little jig to whack .040" off the nose of these using my mini chop saw. That's probably right at the kerf of the saw blade; not much to trim off, and being a hollow point, it should go...
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    10-11-2021, 10:02 PM
    I just bought a high pressure gauge that I'm going to install in my jack. Just a couple of holes to drill, and one to tap threads into. I think whenever I get around to installing it, (I've had the thing for over a year), I will convert the jack...
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    10-11-2021, 04:36 PM
    Ok. These bullets are .484". To get a COAL of .910" would require them to be seated .184". That's .043" deeper than your number. That's a lot, and I was afraid of this. I don't know how much of a factor it might actually be because we don't...
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    10-11-2021, 04:13 PM
    Thanks a bunch. I'll have a look today and see if I think they'll load. I was thinking I'd need to make a shell for testing max length to the lands, but it looks like mag length is the limiting factor in this case, as my factory bullets are right...
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    10-11-2021, 06:27 AM
    Say, do you guys run your powder granulated by moistening and screening, through grading screens when it dries, or do you only screen grade your pressed powder?? I was watching a bunch of you tube vids about black powder with my daughter this...
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    10-10-2021, 08:59 PM
    I missed it. Can someone point me to the Waltham Abbey book again?? Thanks! Vettepilot
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    10-10-2021, 08:51 PM
    HOLY SMOKES ALMAR!! That's unreal! Yeah, you keep going and pressures are going to be a concern, if they aren't now. This is just flat amazing! Ok, I gotta go ahead and build a kiln!! Vettepilot
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    10-10-2021, 08:38 PM
    Thanks a bunch for the responses guys!! You're great! ;~) The reason I ask about the seating depth possibilities, is that my last fear is that these bullets, with their deep hollow point, might be too long for 25 acp. I might have to order one...
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    10-10-2021, 08:21 PM
    Well, I've seated them my way, of course, the Reloader Network way, and several other ways; same result. Any info I can find, in the tutorial sense, says don't seat them that deep. That last hard plastic step measures .009" larger than the i.d....
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    10-10-2021, 06:10 PM
    Yep. I agree with all you said. I don't have any experience with the Winchester or Claybuster wads though. I'm going to test the Federal 12S4 with four cards in them, and then I'll test the 12S0 with no cards when they come. I also have some BP...
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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