SP101 in 32Mag reamed to 327 Federal?

[Shooter6br]

Have a Ruger SP101 in 32 Mag. Is it worth trying to get reamed out for 327 Federal>I heard someone will do it for $100. The debate is why woukld you. i know

[Guesser]

Is the cylinder on the 101 32 heat treated to with stand more than double the pressures of the 32 Magnum. I've read of Single Six 32 mags being converted, it took rechambering, but it also took reheat treating the cylinder. That means refitting and refinishing as well. I have 32 Mag revolvers and I went out and bought a 327 revolver. The more the better!!!!!!

[Shooter6br]

The SP 101 is build to withstand 357 mag pressures so not a problem. The 32 Mag is equal to 38 +P ft lbs. So I guess unless you need or want 357 mag stopping power just use the 32 mag or get a new 327 federal. You are right .put the $100 to a new 327 Federal

[9.3X62AL]

Another facet to this question......the 32 Magnum in the SP-101 or other revolvers of similar strength levels can be loaded pretty close to 327 Federal ballistics. The 32 Magnum's SAAMI specs are predicated on its H&R/NEF platforms. As difficult as 327 Federal brass is to come by, I won't be cutting the chambers of my 32 Magnum anytime soon--if ever. And until component brass in 327 Federal becomes more commonplace, I won't be getting a 327 Federal revolver--as highly as I approve of the caliber's concept.

[NVScouter]

Why not just go to 30 carbine if you want more punch in a full size.

I agree the SP101 would be fine since they are already in 357 and 327 Fed.

[MT Gianni]

The gunbroker prices on a GP100 are a $150 under what I have seen retail around here. I would buy one if I got a good deal for the DA capacity but I have doubts that a 4.2" bbl will do what I want it to in the platform. I would like to see a 6" bbl offered but even in the single six the H&R does a lot of what I want it to.

[Bret4207]

Funny, I just got into a discussion on another board with a guy who was telling me the 327 had it all over the 32-20, told me "...bottle neck revolver cartridges just aren't WHERE IT'S AT...". Went on to tell me how the 32-20 ties up revolvers, is only in existence because Nagant shooters use it, and how the 327 with it's 115 gr boolit at 1300 fps is vastly superior to my 32-20 with a 120 at 1200fps, and I stopped there because the boolit tears up too much meat.

I guess I just don't see the draw to the 327.

[MT Gianni]

Bret if brass is available I see the draw as being able to shoot 32 L. 32 H&R and 327 in the same gun. On a trap line 32 L for a kill shot, 327 Fed for the coyote that hangs around the caught one while you are 60 yards out. The available brass is the real if.

[Bret4207]

Te each their own I guess. I'm betting in 10-15 years 327 brass will be just as available as 9mm Federal and 401 Herters Powermag.

[MT Gianni]

The other problem with the 32-20 is availability of good guns. I see some Hand ejectors that may or may not have been heat-treated going for a lot more than a 327 F. Then there are the Police Positives and Army Specials that fit into affordability while the SAA's & New Frontiers don't come close. My eyes and Police Positive sights no longer get along real well together. The Ruger 30 Carbine conversions are few and far between. I just got into the 30 cal pistols far to late from what I see.

[Groo]

Groo here
I would think that if you got a cast bullet that would use the full cylinder length,and set it for the same oal ,
you could match a 327 with 32 mag cases in an SP-101 .
Like Keith did with the 38spec and his bullet's before the 357mag.

[2 dogs]

Some of you might not know that 327 Federal brass is available via Freedom Arms. I have both a 32-20 buckeye with a cylinder in 327 Federal, as well as a custom Single Six by Alan Harton in 327. I believe they both calibers would benefit from a bullet heavier than 118-120 grains. I am getting in excess of 1500 fps with both of my revolvers in both calibers with exceptional accuracy. Of course, both of my guns have Douglas custom barrels. While I havent tested the 327 with the 133 grain bullets that Denul sent me, I got 1540 fps with that bullet out of my 32-20. I believe the 327 would be very close. YMMV.

[Bret4207]

But wouldn't it be if Smith made an L frame 32-20.......

[9.3X62AL]

But wouldn't it be if Smith made an L frame 32-20.......

THAT would be nice. I won't run my 32-20 revos past 1000 FPS with 115-120 grain boolits (Colt Bisley SAA and S&W M&P). A Blackhawk in 30 Carbine makes more sense for me, since I have ammo, dies, and components on hand but no firearm so chambered. The 32-20 case can be adapted to the 30 Carbine chambers easily, also.

The 327 Federal does make sense in a limited way. It enables rifle-like 32-20 performance from a revolver. It provides the 30 Carbine's revolver ballistics without the occasional snags that rimless casings in a revolver occasionally produce (varying ignition and oversized cases previously fired in U.S. Carbines). Where I think the gunmakers are TOTALLY missing the boat is by 1) chambering the revolvers in short-tubed and/or CCW-oriented models and 2) not chambering a lever rifle in 327 as a companion arm. The absence of component brass to date is a huge oversight, also.

[onceabull]

I'm thinking one of you gentlemen looking to hotrod a 32/20 revolver should be taking up my Dan Wesson !! (it came home again from this wk'ends country town gun show) Lot's of conversation but no greenspans coming in) Onceabull

[MT Gianni]

Onceabull, Can I take it for a year and bring you back the emptys? Just thought I'd be the first to ask. I'll even bring a couple of jars full of cast boolits for it.

[Bret4207]

For the first time Al, we disagree. I don't think anyone is going to get "rifle like performance" (120's at 1800 fps) from the 327. No matter how you cut it the 327 needs to run at 45Kpsi to get where it's going while the 32WCF runs less than half that. Can't beat a bigger case.

[357reloading]

picked up a used taurus 327 at Cabelas few days ago. only ammo available was the speer gold dot 115 grain 20 round box. Shot six rounds , whoa thats a handfull. Today ordered 500 rounds of AE 327 federal mag 100 grain ammo so can have the brass for reloading.

like the gun may replace some others i have and change my nick to 327reloading

[onceabull]

If memory still serves up on call, you missed NCBS the year I had the DW 32/20 there for look/see and trials.. Came home with it then,too,but that's not an easy crowd to extract a "fair" price in greenspans from..If it's still with me in May next I'll take it to NCBS for you to try on. meantime I'll still be looking for the 8 and/or 10 inch barrels for it( got the 4 and 6)...Onceabull

[9.3X62AL]

For the first time Al, we disagree. I don't think anyone is going to get "rifle like performance" (120's at 1800 fps) from the 327. No matter how you cut it the 327 needs to run at 45Kpsi to get where it's going while the 32WCF runs less than half that. Can't beat a bigger case.

Shoulda been more clear & specific. The 327 DOES duplicate and slightly exceed FACTORY LOAD 32/20 rifle performance as loaded in current standard velocity factory ammo. Once into the HV toll-free dialing area, the 32/20's superiority comes home to roost, and long before the sun sets.

[Bret4207]

Not a problem Al.

357- what did you get for velocity?

[missionary5155]

Good morning
If you want a rock solid 32-20 get a Dan Wesson 357. Get a 32-20 cylinder (readily available) and get a custon barrel made to fit the 357 (Model 15) frame.
I did !

[exile]

I have had a Ruger SP-101 in .327 Federal for several years now. The availability of brass has frustrated me. The only load I could get to shoot to point of aim with fixed sights is 7.5 grains of AA # 9 with a 90 grain Lee boolit in .32 H & R mag cases using CCI regular small pistol primers. I used a combination of Lee liquid Alox, Johnson's Paste Wax and mineral spirits as lube, equal parts of each, no leading. (Handloader # 265, April 2010, page 30). I loaded these rounds to 1.455 to take advantage of the extra length of the .327 cylinder.

To my way of thinking, the best gun for this cartridge would be a Ruger 50th Anniversary flattop (small frame) with a six and a half inch barrel. But what do I know?

exile

[Alan]

The reason I will have a .327 soon: http://www.usfirearms.com/cat/sparrow-hawk.asp

Ahm in luuuuvvv!