460 smithwesson plain base boolit

[500bfrman]

Would I be crazy to order a mold for the 460 that is not gas checked. going about 1400 fps, but pressure would close to max for it. I'm guessing I should just listen to what everyone writes and get a gas checked boolit. However, if the boolit fits it fits. Right? anyway tell me what you think, and if anyone is experienced with plain base and high pressure rounds. thanks

[rockrat]

People run the 45-70 with plain base boolits, at nearly 40K psi, and are OK as long as they are kept at 1700fps or so, don't they?

would like to know myself, as I have a 460 on the way. rifle though

[500bfrman]

460 runs 60k, thus my concern, but my velocity will be lower. looking at getting 500 grain boolit. Please don't tell me I don't need anything that big. I know I don't, I don't need much of anything I have. I just really don't want to put a gas check on there increasing my cost.

[HCL]

If your alloy matches your pressure/velocity, boolit is sized properly, and you are using a good lube, should not be an issue.
I was a chicken and went with all GC molds for my 460. GC ads one more step but for me it is peace of mind?
There is a formula for figureing the alloy for pressure/velocity in Verals book, I can dig it out if you would like it? I have a buddy the swears by it.
Mike

[500bfrman]

well I just read on a thread where 44man said he was shooting pb to 55k so maybe it will work. If I'm wrong though it's about a 100 dollar mistake. small price to pay considering the amount of money I spend on this stuff. hopefully he will chime in

[500bfrman]

If your alloy matches your pressure/velocity, boolit is sized properly, and you are using a good lube, should not be an issue.
I was a chicken and went with all GC molds for my 460. GC ads one more step but for me it is peace of mind?
There is a formula for figureing the alloy for pressure/velocity in Verals book, I can dig it out if you would like it? I have a buddy the swears by it.
Mike

The fit "shouldn't" be a problem. though with me you never know. the mold will be sized to what I want so that's not a problem. I understand the peace of mind, and yes I would love to have a formula.

[Bullshop]

I wounder if I may intrude on this thread and impose on someone here for some brass.
I would like to buy 4 pieces of 460 brass. This will be for a three round ball load for a Bond arms 45/410 derringer. At present I am using 454 brass but it is not long enough for three ball, only two.
Apologies for the intrusion but this seemed like a likely place to ask.

[rockrat]

Bullshop, PM me your address and I will get some your way.

[HCL]

when i get home from work tomorrow i will track down my book and get that info for ya.
Mike

[Bullshop]

Oh that would be great rockrat. I will be happy to pay you thier worth or send some lube or something. Let me know what you may need.

[44man]

I have made all of my molds for the .475, .500 JRH, .500 Linebaugh and even the .50 Alaskan, PB.
My best shooting boolit from a friends .454 is also a PB.
I just use WD, WW metal. I can get tad smaller groups with a little harder alloy, adding some antimony and tin to WW's.
A 500 gr in the .460 would be something else and does not need high pressures or high velocities. That thing at 1100 fps would go through any animal on earth.
I have never been a fan of the .454 or .460 because the whole premise was a flatter trajectory for long range hunting with lighter bullets at the cost of high pressures, special bullets or boolit damage. Either with a good, heavy boolit at about 1350 fps will do it all. Any faster presents more problems.
I shoot revolvers to 500 meters but you will have a hard time making me shoot at a deer past 100 yards and I prefer 20 to 40 yards. I will never brag about the distance I shoot one. One at 10 yards is as good as one at 100. All of my deer are shot off hand, if I need a rest, I would use a rifle.

[HCL]

500bfrman;
Have not forgotten that formula, but I did forget that I loaned my book out, he is supposta bring it back next week, so I will get if for you then.
Sorry
Mike