Busy at CH-4d

[BT Sniper]

Seems things have been pretty busy at CH lately. Swaging must be getting some attention latly as their dies are on short supply.

I know the 40 and 45 cal is back ordered and now I hear the 308s are too. Heck that only leaves the 357, 9mm, 410 and 429 and I'm not completly sure just how many of those they have on the shelf. Pretty sure the 40 cal is first in line as far as next to be avialble I hope.

I'm certainly going to continue looking into my own custom set of dies to offer so I will not have to wait. I still want to make a one step die for the .475 from 45 ACP. maybe even a .500.

Well we continue to wait. Good shooting

BT

[Kevin Rohrer]

I was there last month or so and talked to the owner. He is backlogged at least 6-months on orders as it is just him and one or two others. The owner refuses to hire anyone else until he finds out how Obamacare is going to affect medical care for businesses. Thanks, Comrade Obama.

[GabbyM]

Boom and bust is always a problem in manufacturing here in the USA. I'm hired on right now in a shop where they were honest and told me it will probably be done around Christmas as the winter weather sets in. Since it's building materials.

[BT Sniper]

Really makes it difficult when I rely on their dies for business. I could really addvertise and push this swaging hobby but it wouldn't do me any good if I can't fill orders. I'm lookign into tooling up to make my own so we shall see how that works.

BT

[buck1]

"" I still want to make a one step die for the .475 from 45 ACP. "":bigsmyl2: [smilie=w:

[BT Sniper]

Can someone school me a bit on the big .475 bullet and cartridges that shoot them. What weight bullet is typical? Seems to be pretty popular every time I mention it.

BT

[Pepe Ray]

Understanding that there are always exceptions, usually to both extremes, the range of size/weights is from 300 to 420 gr.
Both John Linebaugh and Ross Seyfried agree that the 385 gr is the ideal for the .475 Linebaugh revolvers.
The 480 Rug would follow closely.
That's all I've got.
Pepe Ray

[Hammer]

BT - PM inbound

[BT Sniper]

I'll get to the PMs as soon as I can but **** now I here CH is backordered on the 357s now too.

:groner:

[smilie=b:

:killingpc

[BT Sniper]

I bet the only thing for swaging they have enough of is the 41. They told me when they took over the company the previous owners made alot of the 41 sets. Don't know how many 44s or 9mms they have though.

BT

[buck1]

325 gr to 425 gr seems to cover most of it. 480 ruger and .475 are themain carts for them.

[Ammosmith]

I talked to Dave last week and some of the dies are back ordered for 9 months.

[BT Sniper]

yep time to start making my own!

[sargenv]

If'n ya was to make a slightly more pointed die for the 40 cal, I'd certainly be up for something that closes the nose a bit sharper with maybe half the size of the HP it has now.. just sayin' ;)

[BwBrown]

Brian,
When you mentioned that CH had some 357 dies available, I jumped on a set.

I will need to learn how to get the most out of your version when the 45's and universal notching die arrive, but I will most likely want to add your punches to the 357 stock dies.

I probably saw it somewhere - have you set a price for a set of your additions/mods?
Bob

[BT Sniper]

Just the internial heavy duty upgrade parts is $100 per die and there is two dies per set as you know.

[BT Sniper]

Ya I thought I may mod the 40 die a bit. Make the ogive a little shorter too, seems it is just at the point of being a bit to long. All the dies could use a smaller metplat (nose) I think.

[Jailer]

Ya I thought I may mod the 40 die a bit. Make teheogive a little shorter too, seems it is just at the point of being a bit to long. All the dies could use a smaller metplat (nose) I think.

I like the big nose and big hollow point on my 45 dies. Cuts nice holes in paper. 8-)

[BT Sniper]

Good to hear.
Swage On!

BT

[BT Sniper]

Spoke with CH today. As far as inventory of swage dies I was told they have a lot of .410, and a good supply of .357. Low on 9mm, and out of rest (308, 40, 44, and 45).

Seems like a good time to start making bullets in .357s and .410 from 9mm brass! Let me know if any of you are interested, I can always offer my upgraded versions.

Good shooting and Swage On!

BT

[MCP45]

I'm newbie to this forum, I'm looking into swaging but i'm concern about leading. any help please.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

MCP45,
Welcome to this great forum.
You might be better off starting a new thread
and include a little more info in your question.

But, Be that as is May, I will try to clarify a couple of things
that might help you.

Typically swaging entails a copper or brass jacket with a Lead core.
you would get no leading from shooting a Jacketed bullet as such.
You may get copper or Brass fouling though.
I've only swaged bullets from Brass and only for about 9 months now
and haven't shot enough of them to find out if they will cause brass fouling.

There are a few that swage lead bullets I guess ???
I'm not sure how they'd lube 'em...Maybe graphite or something ?

There are also a few that swage a already lubed cast bullet
to acheive a different shape and/or size.

with either of the last two options, you'd have leading or not,
same as cast boolits, I'd think ???
It'd depend on boolit size compared to bore size
and cylinder throat size if a revolver, lead alloy and Lube and load and crimp...all that stuff
Jon

[MIBULLETS]

There are quite a few people who swage pure lead bullets. There are a couple of ways you can stop or reduce the lead fouling that might occur. You can swage a copper disk to the bottom of the bullet, see what they call "base guards" at www.Corbins.com, you can use a dip lubricant, Corbin also sells this but I believe Rooster also makes one. You can use a canelure tool to roll lube grooves into the bullet or use a knurling tool and use the dip lube or something like Lee's Alox lube. I believe most of these methods will work at reasonable handgun velocities, I think Corbin even says up to around 1400fps with base guards or the dip lube.

[ReloaderFred]

C-H also sells the zinc base dies, which simply crimp a zinc washer to the base of the bullet and that serves as a base guard. I've got the zinc swaging die and 1,000 of the washers, but haven't gotten around to giving them a try yet. Too many projects and not enough time....

Hope this helps.

Fred