Toilet wax ring and Crisco mix

[Moore]

I seen this in another thread and they talked about doing a 50/50 mix. Would you do it by weight or volume? I can see if it works it would be a good cheap alternative to commercial lube.

[zxcvbob]

It won't matter; it's not a precise measure and they should be about the same density. Good luck. :)

[Moore]

I'll give it a try, Thanks

[Hardcast416taylor]

I only hope you realise that the wax ring for toilets isn`t beeswax.Robert

[swheeler]

I tried this a few years back at a members sugestion, toilet ring anyways, don't remember other ingredients may have been Crisco. As I remember it formed hard fouling near chamber of my inline, hard enough I couldn't seat bullet after a couple shots. I ended up thowing it out with the trash.

[DIRT Farmer]

It works well for shotgun wads, I have fired over 100 rds in a day using it. I also use it on mini bullets, but it is soft and gooy. In a rifle, I have used it for patch lube when I did not have deer or mutton tallow. I don't load anything heavy except the 40 silly wet gun, generaly one grain per caliber, ie 50 grains in a 50 cal.

[Tag]

I only hope you realise that the wax ring for toilets isn`t beeswax.Robert

the ones I have seen say they are bees wax

[Moore]

So if I find ones that are bees wax that would be ok then? I just don't want to screw up my 586.

[shotman]

dont fire them near anyone will smell like burger king fries

[Springfield]

Have you ever replaced a toilet? If so then you know that a a pure beeswax toilet ring would be far too hard and brittle. It has other stuff in there, who knows what it is. I just replaced one of mine and the ring didn't look anything like the beeswax I have bought from any vendor.

[swheeler]

The one I used smelled like gun grease, so I'm guessing petro based.

[fryboy]

the current theory is that most of them manufactured of late are made with "slack wax" which is whatever they can manufacture them the cheapest for , i do believe in some ways it still does work for a lube , it works in pearl lube ( but at 1/3 ratio ) and will work in smokeless lubes , there may be old stock or some small company's offering out on the sales floor somewhere , if the label states beeswax then it should be at the minimum a mix with beeswax ( truth in advertising and all that ), i seem to recall replacing a few old ones that were beeswax and also finding cloth rope/mesh type gaskets inside the wax ring

[firefly1957]

The last Toilet ring I bought did not look or smelled like beeswax but it sure smelled better than the one it replaced !!!

[Freightman]

At $0.99 at WalMart I bet it isn't bees wax to cheap>

[Pirate69]

I posted this in a different thread earlier. I have used a 50/50 mixture of the petroleum based toilet rings and canning wax. I add just enough STP to get the consistency that I want. Ususally about 3-4 ounces. Fairly hard at home temp and melts around 135F. For my limited use, it seems OK. But I am only a rookie.

[Timbo]

For the most part these "wax" rings are a grease, a very sticky silicone base I think. You can look up the MSDS (Manufacturer's Safety Data sheet). If I'm contemplating using an over-the-plumbing/auto parts/Home Depot-counter product for a bullet lube, I always look up the MSDS first. It at lease gives you an idea of what you may be facing after you pull the trigger.

I have always stayed away from Petrol based products. Real Bees-wax and olive oil have worked for me for decades. Hot soapy water, a couple of patches and I'm good to go.

Regards,
Timbo

[cajun shooter]

The rings were made of beeswax at one time but as everything else the process was made cheaper. Look in the sticky section at LASC for several lube receipes.

[mdi]

Has anyone looked up the MSDS on a toilet ring? I'm sure it would tell what the ring is made of...

[mold maker]

Each producer has their own formula. You will have to include a name brand to get their MSDS.

[fredj338]

the ones I have seen say they are bees wax
Not for decades now. They are some kind of petro product, way stickier/softer than BW. Mixed w/ parrafin & BW, it could be treated like Vaseline. ANyone that has seen BW would know the current manuf ones are nothing of the sort.

[mdi]

Each producer has their own formula. You will have to include a name brand to get their MSDS.
Yep, but I don't have a ring on hand. Pretty sure there isn't a "generic" toilet ring, or a "standard" contents for them...

[John in PA]

Dittos on the Olive oil and beeswax for a black powder lube. Works as a dip lube, or pour into the lubrisizer. I make mine up 50/50 by volume. If I have some vitamin E capsules handy, I poke a few with a pin and squeeze the oil into the lube. Vitamin E is an oil-soluble antioxidant. I add it as a preservative for the lube.

The lube is soft enough for cold weather and stiff enough for hot weather. Keeps fouling soft.


Real Bees-wax and olive oil have worked for me for decades. Hot soapy water, a couple of patches and I'm good to go.

Regards,
Timbo

[Jim]

the ones I have seen say they are bees wax

With all due respect, I'd like to see documentation from the MFGR. on that.

[fryboy]

could be old old stock , none of the new ones i have seen had so stated but most companies do offer a online msds

[softpoint]

Prolly not good to melt used potty rings and put in yer Crisco......:bigsmyl2:

[garym1a2]

I made up a lube of one toliet ring, one pound of parafin wax, one can of Johnson paste wax, add 4 oz of lees Alox and a dab of lanolin. It did not work wells as a lube but it makes a great flux for melting wheel weights. I notice the rings in Walmart and Ace do not say whats in them.