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lead-1
11-08-2010, 03:42 AM
I picked up some assorted brass from an old friend and need your opinion, would you reload this brass? It is once fired Winchester that is tarnished for whatever reason. I tumbled it for 3-4 hours and this is how it turned out.

WILCO
11-08-2010, 04:33 AM
When in doubt, toss it out.

JFrench
11-08-2010, 06:49 AM
I would. They don't have to be perfect and bright to reload.
James

hoosierlogger
11-08-2010, 06:56 AM
I wish some of my brass looked that good.

HardColt
11-08-2010, 08:19 AM
Looked serviceable to me except for the badly dinged and bent ones. I'd gladly toss out to my scrap yard pile to sell,that is, when I have a ton or so of rejected unserviceable brass.

Bass Ackward
11-08-2010, 08:41 AM
That looks better than 98% of my brass.

EMC45
11-08-2010, 09:10 AM
That looks like 10MM maybe? If so, as scarce as it is at times, I would load, shoot, repeat.

Dan Cash
11-08-2010, 09:13 AM
Case mouth not rolled over, case not radically bulged especially at base= reload. Dents will blow out as long as your expanding plug can enter. Your stuff looks good.

44man
11-08-2010, 09:30 AM
Dirt off to keep from scratching dies is all that is needed.

white eagle
11-08-2010, 09:30 AM
sure load em up

HeavyMetal
11-08-2010, 10:22 AM
If you really want to be a stickler for clean go buy a bottle of Birchwood Casey's case cleaner and follow the instructions.

I've had case's that looked way worse turn completely clean, like new, after a 4 minute dip in this stuff followed by an hour or so in walnut shell with a little rubbing compund added to it.

I would salvage and shoot unless I saw obvious issues like cracks.

Shiloh
11-08-2010, 10:24 AM
After you load and shoot them, the dents will disappear. Shoot them. I have brass that looks worse than that.

SHiloh

Moonie
11-08-2010, 11:31 AM
I wouldn't have any problem loading and shooting them myself. Lots of my brass has looked much worse. The dents will be ok.

lead-1
11-08-2010, 01:30 PM
It is .45 acp brass and I think I will go with WILCO's opinion on the first 4-6 pieces in the top row as you can feel the roughness on the tarnished area. As for the rest of the brass it is more or less stained/tarnished and I have never had any this bad so I come here for the opinions, thanks.
Also as for the dents my Glock does that to the brass too and the sizer die usually irons them out.

Hardcast416taylor
11-08-2010, 05:33 PM
AAAAAARRRRRRRR, Mr. Smee. A double load of cannister shot if you please to shred their frilly rigging!!Robert:brokenima

NickSS
11-08-2010, 06:14 PM
I have loaded 45 ACP brass that was dented, corroded and totally filthy when I picked it up. All of it worked as well as new brass without a single problem. In fact some of the brass I am using right now is just about black in color and you can not even read the head stamp b ut it still works just fine through my pistols.

Dark Helmet
11-08-2010, 08:05 PM
Hit the worst ones with 4 aught steel wool, soak them all in homemade case cleaner for a couple hours. Rinse and dry, tumble again.That should bring them to a shine.

mtgrs737
11-08-2010, 10:57 PM
What Dark Helmet said, just make sure that they are just tarnished and not corroded which might weaken them.

BOOM BOOM
11-13-2010, 09:03 PM
HI,
Most look good enough to shoot, most dents just fire form in the chamber.

zxcvbob
11-13-2010, 09:17 PM
I might not shoot some of that if it was .30-06 -- I would at least inspect the corrosion spots carefully to make sure they were becoming dealloyed. I've had some corroded brass blow out little pin holes and I don't like hot gasses coming back in my face.

It most handgun cartridges, no problem. In .45 ACP I would load them without even thinking about it; the pressures aren't that high. The dents don't matter even if it were rifle brass.

missionary5155
11-14-2010, 04:46 AM
I have a zip lock bag of brass for when I am in my kayak or walking about the woods /swamp that I use on those oppotunity shots. If I loose a few it is no matter. And they shoot near enough I see little difference under 30 yards.

chboats
11-14-2010, 11:38 AM
Check out this thread. clean, load and fire form and they will look like new.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=83572&highlight=citric+acid

Carl

dubber123
11-15-2010, 04:07 PM
I've got .45 ACP's with an "18" headstamp, with the old style stake crimp in the side to prove to me it's not 2018.... :) Brown as an old shoe, and has been fired dozens of times with 230's @ 850 fps. Never a problem. .45 ACP brass has to be about the hardest stuff to kill off.

Freischütz
11-15-2010, 10:14 PM
They look ok. You'll be able to tell more by the effort necessary to resize them and their appearance after resizing.

MtGun44
11-16-2010, 12:03 AM
Buy a bottle of Lemi-Shine, mix up and drop in the brass. It will shine up very quickly.

It will work fine as is.

Bill

home in oz
11-16-2010, 12:16 AM
Yes, I would.

Uncle R.
11-16-2010, 12:49 AM
Even at today's prices, brass is comparatively cheap. It's certainly cheaper than eyes or fingers. Corrosion is bad not just because it's unsightly but because it weakens the brass. At some point corrosion goes past the line of ugly and becomes dangerous. It's probably more significant with higher pressure cartridges but I would err on the side of caution, especially in the area of the case head and feed ramp. If they're corroded badly, I'd throw 'em out.
Uncle R.

a.squibload
11-16-2010, 01:26 AM
AAAAAARRRRRRRR, Mr. Smee. A double load of cannister shot if you please to shred their frilly rigging!!Robert:brokenima

Say, uh, wasn't your patch on the other eye a minute ago?

Citric acid and hot water (or Lemishine, same stuff), then tumble, if they're clean you can spot cracks & pits,
and it'll help keep 'em from tarnishing or corroding.
Or so I've heard.

dualsport
11-16-2010, 01:35 AM
This is coincidence. I was going to ask; what causes verdgris (sp?) on brass and how to prevent it?

smkummer
11-16-2010, 05:31 PM
I'll be about the 20th person to say load it and shoot it. I shoot several 45 acp pistols, revolvers and submachineguns. They are far from bad. In most 45 acp firearms, if you split or crack a case upon firing, you may not be able to tell until you pick it up. I have loaded severly tarnished 38 special brass that finally cracked after several reloads with no ill effects. Even if it was not tarnished, reloaders generally shoot that type of brass until it cracks from work hardening.

H-Marlin
11-17-2010, 06:07 PM
Verdigris is a green substance formed when the copper in brass reacts with one of several different substances. Most likely with cartridge brass it is reacting with oxygen. However, vertigris can form with many other things and I suspect that a big culprit is the stuff on our fingers when we handle brass. I have no evidence of this but from what I know of chemistry I would say that prevention would be to keep your brass clean and dry, and wash your hands before taking your brass out of the tumbler. Moisture, humidity, and contact with acids (possibly from hands) will enhance the formation of verdigris.

dualsport
11-17-2010, 09:59 PM
Thanks H. I will follow your advice. It sucks to have a stockpile of brass and then find it going green. I've been picking up 9mm brass for 25 yrs.! Several 5 gallon buckets full later, I noticed it was turning. Now I'm running it all thru the Turbo Tumbler and putting lids on the buckets with some dessicant. I'll wash my hands before and after now.

leadman
11-20-2010, 05:12 PM
one to 2 ounces of lemon juice in a quart of veryhot water cleans brass very well.
I would use that brass.