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emptyhead
11-07-2010, 08:31 AM
Hi guys I just had about 250 lyman # 311359 boolits dumped into my lap and don't want to wast them. What are load are you guys using with Wc 820. I don't want to use my stash of 2400 I still have about 5 lbs of Wc820. Thanks

jonk
11-07-2010, 11:05 AM
Not sure of the weight of that mold, but with my Lee 130 gr RN, I use 12.5 gr of 820. 13 gr with a surplus jacketed 110. I have pushed up to 14 with the 110, but see no improvement in function or accuracy.

emptyhead
11-07-2010, 11:20 AM
Weight around 115 grns

Vly
11-07-2010, 01:30 PM
I use the 311359 in my National Postal Meter carbine. I load 11.5 grs of WC-820 and get excellent accuracy and 100% functioning. Shooting good and cheap to load.....can't beat that.

vincewarde
11-07-2010, 04:39 PM
I use the 311359 in my National Postal Meter carbine. I load 11.5 grs of WC-820 and get excellent accuracy and 100% functioning. Shooting good and cheap to load.....can't beat that.

+1 exactly what I use.

emptyhead
11-07-2010, 05:45 PM
Thanks guys

Will
11-07-2010, 06:53 PM
Is WC-820 the same as H110 or 296?

felix
11-07-2010, 07:20 PM
NO, and is likely faster approaching N110/2400, but some lots can be as slow as 296. ... felix

Marlin Junky
11-08-2010, 04:56 PM
Is WC-820 the same as H110 or 296?

My lot is a dead ringer for #9 but I've compared the two in the 30-30 with RCBS 30-180-FN cast on the heavy side (50/50 Pb/WW).

MJ

Dale53
11-08-2010, 11:10 PM
It IS important to understand that WC 820 is a non-canister powder and there are at least three different burning rates known. They run from AA #9 on the faster side to H110/296 on the slower side. I was an early adopter of WC 820 and made a group buy for my home gun club. I eventually bought about 450 lbs for my fellow members. Most of us just used the powder in the handgun magnums. By buying bulk in the "early days" we got this powder for a fraction of it's cost today. As a matter of interest, it came in 150 lb plastic bottles (that was a BIG bottle) that were crated.

I ran chronograph tests with my lot and it was within half a grain of H110. I have used 20 lbs or so of this, so far. It has done a yeoman's job for me in the .44 Magnum.

Dale53

agtr05
01-07-2011, 10:51 PM
I shot my carbine today with ammo I loaded in 1969. The 311359 was cast over a Coleman stove and loaded with LC53 military brass. My brother and I were able to hit a 5" gong 9 out of 10 shots at 50 meters offhand. I found this ammo when I was going some cleaning in my reloading room yesterday. They were shored in a GI ammo can. I wonder how long the reloads will last stored as they are in a cool dry place?

John Traveler
01-08-2011, 01:23 AM
The reloads will last indefinitely under the conditions you described.

Extended periods of summer heat may make the bullet lubricant melt and contaminate the powder.

Witness the gobs of WWII manufactured M1 rifle, M1 Carbine, and pistol ammunition that functions just as it did when made over 70 years ago.

Jim
01-08-2011, 09:26 AM
The Army Ammunition Data Book says 13 gr. of WC820 was the original load.

jimb16
01-09-2011, 10:24 AM
I use 12 gr. with a 115 gr gaschecked Lee bullet.