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10-01-2006, 09:45 AM
Well, I have started to wring out my new/old M38, and am quite supprised at the thing. With surplus corroslve and I think about 150 gr. J, it will do about 5-6" at 50 yds. With 126 J 7.62(.311), it will stay in the 2-3" at 50 yds. With .3085 J, with the lighter weight blts it will do about the same as .311. Have not yet slugged the bbl. (gotta get around to it one of these days)
Took it to the range Fri with 50 rds. of cast, starting with 20 gr. of 2400, and loading 10 ea. 311332(.311) 187gr.GC, 10ea. 311359(311),117 grGC, 10 ea.Lee 312-160-2R (311), 165gr.GC.). These three blts w/Red Rooster Lube shot into 3-4" when I held tight. Also shot a 180multi groved w/Lee alox .311, that shot into about a bushel basket. Will be playing with loads with the three that shot well, but will try sizing 312, and .313, or just as cast with gas check fitted in a .314 die, just to see what is best.
My question however is has any one got a load for the Lyman .311644 at about 190+, or for 311284 (mine runs about 216 gr. checked and lubed. Also have a question about recommendations for lubes these loads. Have thoughts that maybe the hard red lubes may not be the best for this rifle, and maybe should try
Alox, or maybe Felix lube. Am always willing to listed to suggestions particularly from folks with experiance with this ctg. By the way, am using GRAF brass, and find it quite good, and have no complaints. Have not yet played with the trigger(which is less than a joy), or the spring, but will sometime in the future as time allows. This is a fun rifle and would be a good truck or camp gun for anyone looking for a cheap way to go. Now if I can find a cast load that will stay in the 3-4" group at 100, I will be tickled spitless.
Anywho, I thank in advance all who respond to this thread, and provide words of wisdom on this old Russian Ctg.
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Took it to the range Fri with 50 rds. of cast, starting with 20 gr. of 2400, and loading 10 ea. 311332(.311) 187gr.GC, 10ea. 311359(311),117 grGC, 10 ea.Lee 312-160-2R (311), 165gr.GC.). These three blts w/Red Rooster Lube shot into 3-4" when I held tight. Also shot a 180multi groved w/Lee alox .311, that shot into about a bushel basket. Will be playing with loads with the three that shot well, but will try sizing 312, and .313, or just as cast with gas check fitted in a .314 die, just to see what is best.
My question however is has any one got a load for the Lyman .311644 at about 190+, or for 311284 (mine runs about 216 gr. checked and lubed. Also have a question about recommendations for lubes these loads. Have thoughts that maybe the hard red lubes may not be the best for this rifle, and maybe should try
Alox, or maybe Felix lube. Am always willing to listed to suggestions particularly from folks with experiance with this ctg. By the way, am using GRAF brass, and find it quite good, and have no complaints. Have not yet played with the trigger(which is less than a joy), or the spring, but will sometime in the future as time allows. This is a fun rifle and would be a good truck or camp gun for anyone looking for a cheap way to go. Now if I can find a cast load that will stay in the 3-4" group at 100, I will be tickled spitless.
Anywho, I thank in advance all who respond to this thread, and provide words of wisdom on this old Russian Ctg.
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