Swedish Mauser problem cast bullet load

[ELFEGO BACA]

I just tried shooting some cast bullets from Mid South's Lee custom Swede mold. Functioning was a failure. The cartridges hit the end of the barrel instead of chambering. The overall length of these cartridges is 3.0144. I selected this length so the base of the bullet would not extend beyond the neck of the case. This is very close to maximum length for the cartridge.

In shooting cast bullets from Lyman's 268645 mold seated the same way i have no functioning problems but the overall length is 3.05.

Does seating below the base of the neck create problems?

Any solutions for the Lee bullet?

elfego[smilie=b:

[Calamity Jake]

It's the little flat nose on that long boolit, its hitting edge of the chamber when you feed it from the magazine, you will just have to guide it in to the chamber or single load.

Seating below the neck does not cause problems!!

[kawalekm]

If it's a gas-checked bullet, and the upper lip of the gas-check is not enclosed by the bottom of the neck, then the pressure of firing may knock the check off the base of the bullet and send it sailing toward the target independently of the lead part.

[garandsrus]

ELFEGO BACA,

I had the same problem with the cruise missile mold. I solved it by selling the mold and buying a mold for a shorter boolit :)

It seems like some rifles have the feeding problem while others don't.

John

[Bret4207]

If it's a gas-checked bullet, and the upper lip of the gas-check is not enclosed by the bottom of the neck, then the pressure of firing may knock the check off the base of the bullet and send it sailing toward the target independently of the lead part.

Okay, I sincerely mean no offense, but that's a legend or wives tale that makes no sense. The pressure in a cylinder doesn't push forward against the neck, bounce back and then focus on the checks leading edge in order to push the check off and then turn around and push the boolit out of the case. As long as the check is properly seated it should be okay as long as there's no "doughnut" in the neck to catch an edge.

[6.5 mike]

BACA, I seat the c/m with the checks below the neck in 3 of my swede's & don't have any trouble ( 2- 96's 1 -38 ). The single shot followers made for a 98 will work in the swede, straight line feeding, just 1 at a time. Don't know what sizer you're using, Buckshot made mine, really locks the checks on.

[ELFEGO BACA]

Everyone thanks for the 'advice'. I will try altering the overall length to see what will work. If not i will have a mold for sale.

elfego

[6.5 mike]

BaBore's 140 gr feeds just as smooth as "j word bullets" in all my swede's if your going to try another mold.

[geargnasher]

What's a 268645?

Gear

[6.5 mike]

Gear, the 140 I was talking about is 268649 that's BaBores 140 gr. Not sure what the number you listed is.

[Buckshot]

What's a 268645?

Gear

http://www.fototime.com/8B8B8013CDC151A/standard.jpg

..................#3 in the photo is the Lyman 268645 and it's NLA.

...............Buckshot

[geargnasher]

Thanks, Buckshot, you'd think I'd remember as many times as I've seen that 6.5mm lineup!


Gear, the 140 I was talking about is 268649 that's BaBores 140 gr. Not sure what the number you listed is.

OK, what's a 268649? :kidding: Ya mean 268469, like BRP's fatter copy of the 266469?

Dyslexics of the world Untie!

Gear

[calkar]

Im wondering why there is a lube groove so far up on the nose of the 268645. I just bought a mold for this boolit and after the design number there is a bv. What does that stand for?
Thanks!

[Buckshot]

Im wondering why there is a lube groove so far up on the nose of the 268645. I just bought a mold for this boolit and after the design number there is a bv. What does that stand for?
Thanks!

................The BV has nothing to do with the design or caliber. It's a code having to do maybe with the cherry being used, the machine the blocks were made on or the machine the blocks were cherried on, or similar. The lube groove up on the nose is just there ...................because:-) Lyman came out with 3-4 new designs a couple years back called "Hi-Velocity" and they shared the same basic design concept. The ones remaining are the 22 cal 225646 (55gr), and the 30 cal 311644 (190gr). If you think you need lube in the nose grooves you have to use your fingers!

...............Buckshot

[calkar]

Ohhh boy! what a project for the techys around here. To find the proper formulations for "Nose Lube"!!! Lets see, you would need different formulas for different barrel lengths, rifleing twists, the temp. of the day, and velocities, so that the lube in the nose groove would fling just the right amount to the bore ahead of the traveling bullet. What a great marketing idea, that would leade to a whole new line of bullet lube, and everyone would have to have a shooting box full of it. Wow!! Im in the wrong business. Haahaa!! Thanks for the info Buckshot

[calkar]

Oh! and Garandsrus, I agree, I sold my cruise missile mold three days after receiving it. I would like to cut my high power silouette bullet costs in half by useing cast up to the pigs which is 300 meters. The cruise missile wobbled for me on 50m tests from 1200 fps. to 2300 fps. using lyno, mono, and slow powders. no bore leading. It will not feed from the mag. which is the rules of high power. I dont buy the phd thing, and Im not wasting my time or playing with fillers. The cruise missile never could have been a 300m boolit.