Single shot .22 plan's

[zuke]

I was moose hunting yesterday and came across a fair number of Ruffed Grouse.
Now carring the 1895 made it a little tricky shooting with minimal noise, and I don't want to go the reduced load's route.
I came across a site that offered free/cheap plan's on building a single shot .22.
I'd like to have one as light as possible so I can carry it and my moose rifle of choice.

Any lead's out there?

[seppos]

What about cartridge insert for .22 LR.. in your current rifle..?
One just need a short piece of .22 barrel and lathe and .22LR reamer.

http://www.moonclips.com/images/45LC-insert-sml.jpg

S

[Doc Highwall]

Check out the new single shot by Thompson Center that looks like a Encore with an aluminum frame I forget the model name of it.

[Hickory]

Too bad you are in Canada!
In Colorado I used 32 mag revolver with a .315 round ball and 1.2 grs of Bullseye to take grouse while elk hunting some years ago

[David2011]

Thompson Center's gun is the Hot Shot. The barrel is 19", weighs 3 lb. Would need an adult stock, though. The LOP as sold is 11.5"

David

[Multigunner]

I was moose hunting yesterday and came across a fair number of Ruffed Grouse.
Now carring the 1895 made it a little tricky shooting with minimal noise, and I don't want to go the reduced load's route.
I came across a site that offered free/cheap plan's on building a single shot .22.
I'd like to have one as light as possible so I can carry it and my moose rifle of choice.

Any lead's out there?

A long barreled .22 RF revolver can be extremely accurate.
I've always figured one should carry a small caliber handgun when carrying a high powered rifle or a large caliber handgun when carrying a .22 rifle. One large caliber weapon hould be carried for self defense against four legged or two legged predators whenever one goes into the quiet places these days.

I've also given serious thought to the sort of ultra lightweight single shot .22 that you seem to have in mind.
My first experiance with the .22 was with a tiny News Boy style .22 that the feed and grain stores used to give away free to valued customers, with the intended purpose of killing rats that might get into the grain.
This example had a brass barrel inside a drawn steel outer jacket. The early .22 RF cartridges being extremely corrosive the brass though softer than steel held up better to long use, at least when chamber pressures were still very low.
Most of these old rifles now have badly swollen chambers due to the increased pressures of more modern .22 cartridges.
Heres the Hamilton Model 27, the type I first used.
http://www.nrvoutdoors.com/HAMILTON/HAMILTON%2027.htm
A Japanese manufactured copy of this rifle was once available, but didn't sell as well as it should have.

The Garcia Bronco is another in this class
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=187137398

But like I said earlier a good long barreled .22 Revolver is probably better for this sort of work.

[hickstick_10]

This is geared toward what you want.

http://www.packrifle.com/pictures.html

Anyways sounds like your moving around in them bushes, so carrying 2 rifles by yourself while your out hunting is not entirely practical, or safe. At least not 2 rifles at ready, there are various take down 22s that you can easily stash in your pack.

Other option is to purchase one of those break action combo guns, you know the ones were one barrel is a 22 and the other is a center fire or a shotgun.

So what are you gonna do when you see a grouse? Put your other rifle down by a tree and put together a little 22 and pursue grouse? Because this is THE BEST way to loose a gun!!! Perhaps you should think these logistics through a little bit.

Of course if you can sweet talk someone to carry the 22 for you, then your in business.

[fecmech]

These people might make you an adapter to fit your rifles chamber. They only make stock ones for shotguns but I don't think it would be a big deal to turn one to your rifle cartridge dimensions. Or you could buy one big enough and have someone turn it down for you.
http://store.dinaarms.com/

[Molly]

If you're willing to put up with carrying two rifles, try the little Chipmunk .22 rifle. Very light, very accurate.

[calaloo]

I vote for a Stevens Favorite or one of the newer models as made by Savage. Origionals are takedown models.

[zuke]

Were not allowed to carry pistol's up here for hunting.
Carring two rifle's doesn't bother me, I hunt old logging road's or high dry ground and try to avoid swamp's now.
A steven's would be the cat's a$$ I didn't realize their making them again, any link's to them?
I had an AR-7 but gave it to a family friend that fell in love with it.
I want something I don't have to take my pack off and put together and that will run with 22 short's to keep the noise down.
I am moose hunting afterall. :Fire:

Any lead's on making a steven's type rifle or other single shot?
As light as possible please!

[elk hunter]

Zuke,

Frank de Haas wrote a book, "Mr. Single Shot's BOOK OF RIFLE PLANS" on how to build single shot rifle actions. The "Chicopee rim fire" is a easy to build action for 22 rim fire class rounds. I put one together several years ago using a Marlin 39- A barrel that I had, it's a tack driver.

Brownells sells de Haas's books.

http://www.brownells.com/

[hickstick_10]

3 sets of pistol plans, so you will have to install a longer barrel and use your imagination on a stock.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Prints_and_Plans_4/files/JACO%20Gun%20Plans/

from this site

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Prints_and_Plans_4/

Sorry there yahoo groups so you have to join to see the drawings.



In the end your better off purchasing a used stevens favorite, If you place any value on your time.

Or, if your a machinist of some competence you can go whole hog and make a scaled down rifle from these drawings (the sets are damn pricey thought)

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/2,148.html

[MtGun44]

I have a nice Rem RB #4 that is a a light and small rifle and very accurate. A friend's boys
have a Stevens Favorite, another light and handy single shot. The RB as not cheap with
a mint bore, but the Favorite was $100 with REALLY ugly wood. Shoots well and I made new
wood for it. Too bad about the pistols, God knows what evil you may do out in the woods
with a .22 pistol while you are already carrying a high powered rifle??!! Idiots.

Bill

[Multigunner]

I have a nice Rem RB #4 that is a a light and small rifle and very accurate. A friend's boys
have a Stevens Favorite, another light and handy single shot. The RB as not cheap with
a mint bore, but the Favorite was $100 with REALLY ugly wood. Shoots well and I made new
wood for it. Too bad about the pistols, God knows what evil you may do out in the woods
with a .22 pistol while you are already carrying a high powered rifle??!! Idiots.

Bill

My brother has a shot out No.4 wall hanger. It would take a lot to put it in good shooting condition but I may trade him out of it one day and have a barrel made for it.
It really needs a new breech block as well.
Only thing shot through it in the last fifty years has been rat shot, or CB caps to kill field mice that got in his shop ,and it hasn't been safe to shoot those for at least thirty years.

Its a takedown, and some previous owner hammered down the front of the receiver to tighten the barrel up.
I'll have to have some welding and reshaping done there.

[calaloo]

Zuke. Savage made a run of Favorites about 10 years ago. Before that it was, maybe, the '70's. If I was looking for one I would check the online gun auctions or gun shops.

[82nd airborne]

They still make/sell Savage favorites.

[fecmech]

I saw what looked to me like a Stevens Favorite (a new one) in the .22 rack at the local gun store. Could not see the price tag well but looked like $200-$300 maybe?

[zuke]

Building one would be nice, but I'll do a Google search and see what happen's.

[82nd airborne]

I think sports south llc has them for under 300

[camerl2009]

A long barreled .22 RF revolver can be extremely accurate.
I've always figured one should carry a small caliber handgun when carrying a high powered rifle or a large caliber handgun when carrying a .22 rifle. One large caliber weapon hould be carried for self defense against four legged or two legged predators whenever one goes into the quiet places these days.

I've also given serious thought to the sort of ultra lightweight single shot .22 that you seem to have in mind.
My first experiance with the .22 was with a tiny News Boy style .22 that the feed and grain stores used to give away free to valued customers, with the intended purpose of killing rats that might get into the grain.
This example had a brass barrel inside a drawn steel outer jacket. The early .22 RF cartridges being extremely corrosive the brass though softer than steel held up better to long use, at least when chamber pressures were still very low.
Most of these old rifles now have badly swollen chambers due to the increased pressures of more modern .22 cartridges.
Heres the Hamilton Model 27, the type I first used.
http://www.nrvoutdoors.com/HAMILTON/HAMILTON%2027.htm
A Japanese manufactured copy of this rifle was once available, but didn't sell as well as it should have.

The Garcia Bronco is another in this class
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=187137398

But like I said earlier a good long barreled .22 Revolver is probably better for this sort of work.

in canada cant use a handgun for hunting

[camerl2009]

I was moose hunting yesterday and came across a fair number of Ruffed Grouse.
Now carring the 1895 made it a little tricky shooting with minimal noise, and I don't want to go the reduced load's route.
I came across a site that offered free/cheap plan's on building a single shot .22.
I'd like to have one as light as possible so I can carry it and my moose rifle of choice.

Any lead's out there?

when hunting for big game in ontario you cant have more then 1 rifle
for hunting at one time so you cant carry a more then 1 rifle or shotgun at a
time and only the right type of ammo for the gun your using

[zuke]

I'm an Indian. I have no season,and no game limit's.
I hunt in the fall like everyone else to keep it fair, and only take 1 at a time.
With that being said I'm still looking around.
I've thought of using derringer plan's as a place to start and then adding a stock and longer barrel.
I want this for 22 short, so there womt be much pressure at all.

[zuke]

when hunting for big game in ontario you cant have more then 1 rifle
for hunting at one time so you cant carry a more then 1 rifle or shotgun at a
time and only the right type of ammo for the gun your using

I was making chamber adapter's 15 year's ago. But hunting with a 45-70 I'd like to use a 22 short for grouse.

[coleman]

For homemade guns check out the weapons guild, alot of info from 22's on up.

http://www.prexis.com/sten/homebuilder/index.php

[WILCO]

http://hunting.about.com/library/weekly/aastrossimatchedpair.htm

SPECS
Rossi Matched Pair
.22 LR/.410 Break-open Combo
Distributor ............................................BrazTe ch, L.C.
16175 NW. 49th Ave.
Miami, FL 33014
Model............................................. ............ Matched Pair
Operation ..............................Break-open single shot
Caliber .................................................. ........22 LR/.410
(Modified choke)
Barrel length ..................................18.5 inches (rifle);
22.0 inches (shotgun)
Overall length ..............................32.25 inches (rifle);
35.75 inches (shotgun)
Weight, empty .................................4.0 pounds (rifle);
3.5 pounds (shotgun)
Safety ...........................Transfer-bar ignition; manual
Rolling Block safety bar
Sights ........................Drift-adjustable rear; elevation-
adjustable Patridge front (rifle);
front brass bead (shotgun)
Sight radius ...................................15.25 inches (rifle)
Rifling .................................................. .........6 grooves,
1:12 RH twist (rifle)
Stock .............................................. Two-piece smooth
Brazilian hardwood
Length of pull .............................................12.5 inches
Cartridge capacity .......................................... 1 round
Finish ........................Blued steel with walnut-stained
wood or satin stainless steel
with black-stained wood
Price .................................................. .......$140 (blued);
$170 (stainless)

[zuke]

Look's good Wilco!
I'll look around.
Any other idea's?

[hickstick_10]

Look's good Wilco!
I'll look around.
Any other idea's?

May I suggest securing a .22 barrel.

[zuke]

I have a couple old Cooey's here so barrel's are secured.

[Arisaka99]

This is geared toward what you want.

http://www.packrifle.com/pictures.html

Anyways sounds like your moving around in them bushes, so carrying 2 rifles by yourself while your out hunting is not entirely practical, or safe. At least not 2 rifles at ready, there are various take down 22s that you can easily stash in your pack.

Other option is to purchase one of those break action combo guns, you know the ones were one barrel is a 22 and the other is a center fire or a shotgun.

So what are you gonna do when you see a grouse? Put your other rifle down by a tree and put together a little 22 and pursue grouse? Because this is THE BEST way to loose a gun!!! Perhaps you should think these logistics through a little bit.

Of course if you can sweet talk someone to carry the 22 for you, then your in business.


This is the best idea I have seen in a very long time!!!! specially the fishing kit!!

[Blacksmith]

+1 on the Rossi. Last Christmas I gave each grandson his own, they were on sale at Dick's Sporting Goods for $110. Not the greatest but should work for you.

Here is the web site:
http://www.rossiusa.com/

Blacksmith

[Blacksmith]

These might also be an option.
http://www.mcace.com/rifleinserts.html

Blacksmith

[Blacksmith]

Here is another option the adult Crikett with 14" LOP weighs 3 1/2 lbs. The youth models sell for around $100.
Here is a link:
http://www.crickett.com/shop_by_brand.php?manufacturers_id=27

Blacksmith

[zuke]

Now those are more option's I haven't thought of!
Keep'em coming!

[sailor]

30 years ago I had a buddy with a ferral cat problem. The only rifle he owned was a .30-06. So I made him a .30-06 case from solid brass, that had no powder chamber, only a very long "flash hole". I bored a short cavity in the neck, which would take a .31 cal round ball. The ball weighs about 45 grains, so it is not too different than the .22 cal bullet. It was driven by a magnum rifle primer, very quiet out of the rifle barrel, and plenty accurate out to 45-50 feet range. The bigest problem were sights. In the end he used the iron sights for cats and the scope for big game.
So what caliber is your '95? You can get almost any size RB mold.

[preparehandbook]

If you're willing to put up with carrying two rifles, try the little Chipmunk .22 rifle. Very light, very accurate.

I had a chipmunk for very similar use, It was very accurate, light, small, and I could also use .22 shorts, cb caps, etc.

Hard to beat for price and functionality.

[ghh3rd]

I've been tempted to pick up one of these someday:

Henry - U.S. Survival AR-7

http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-survival-ar7.cfm

It even floats when stored in the waterproof stock!

[preparehandbook]

I've been tempted to pick up one of these someday:

Henry - U.S. Survival AR-7

http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-survival-ar7.cfm

It even floats when stored in the waterproof stock!

I've heard they fixed the problems with that one. I've owned an original and it was great. Then I bought a henry and it was unshootable. Spent hours trying to tune it so I could get through a mag at a time, no luck, gave it away.

Since then I've heard it's been fixed up, so I guess I'll buy another.

[WickedGoodOutdoors]

Can you carry a Cap & Ball in Canada?

Load up a .36 Navy with bird shot and you can pop the Partridge in the air as well as on the ground.

or how about a .177/.22 air pistol. Thats all you need for the
Road Chickens and you wont scare the Moose

My boy and I ran into the same delima when Moose Hunting a few years ago. He wanted to shoot the Grouse with his .44 mag Henry and there whould not be much left of the bird using Moose Shot.

An double barrel 12 Ga would be the best with a slug in one and birdhot in the other.

[MW3840]

I carry my little Keystone Crickett rifle in the side of my pack. Light and accurate.

[Norbrat]

Here in Oz, it is fairly easy to find old single shot bolt actions for almost give away prices. I have actually been given a couple for free when registration laws were introduced and folks just wanted rid of them.

The barrel/action/trigger of one of these would seem to be an easy basis for making a short barreled, light stocked carry rifle.

[twotoescharlie]

the TC "hotshot" comes with a stock spacer.

TTC

[tacklebury]

I love my Favorite. ;) Would love to get the take down version some day. ;)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yhcP-eD9GB4/TsRBFNk2jNI/AAAAAAAAAHc/RzZDE5uZpCQ/s800/Savage_Model_72_Left.jpg

[303Guy]

Oh my! That is beauty, tacklebury. That would be worth building.

Norbrat, this is what I did with a Slazenger

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo327/303Guy/CalebsRiflesmall.jpg

It's a real sweat shooting little beast. Very accurate.

P.S. No comments on the glue job!:roll:

[uscra112]

Stevens Model 12 - break-open that works a little like the old Maynard. Barrel is slip-fit in action with a thumbscrew takedown.

But I like the insert with the round-ball even better ! ! ! Make two or three, maybe even allow for a small powder charge? Easy to carry! Question is - how accurate? I know that the sub-caliber adaptors, like .32 ACP in .30-06, are not very.

[Norbrat]

Norbrat, this is what I did with a Slazenger

It's a real sweat shooting little beast. Very accurate.

Yeah, those Lithgow/Slazenger/Sportco single shots are really nice.

But I think Zuke was really looking for ideas for an easy to carry, lightweight "extra" rifle to carry along with his big gun.

So using just the action/barrel/trigger from a donor single shot would make an easy basis for cutting the barrel to minimum legal length (16"?) and fitting some kind of skeleton stock, or even make it a take down.

Using a .22 chamber adaptor might be a bit tricky in a 1895 lever action. The adaptor really couldn't be any longer than the standard cartridges as otherwise it would be a bit hard to get in and out without removing the bolt, and that would require a partial dismantling of the action every shot!

Adaptors would work great in a break action, and I have a .22LR for my 222 Rem bolt action, which works fine, as the bore is effectively the same.

Perhaps a better all round option is to make some subsonic loads using as light a bullet as is reasonable for the big gun.

I have loaded .308 subsonics using 160gn boolits and Trail Boss.

[x101airborne]

I know you said you dont want to..... But I have to say, the side saddle ammo carrier on my 336 30-30 has 5 rounds 185 grain round nose and 4 rounds of resized 000 buckshot slip fit into cases with a pistol primer and 3 grains of bullseye. When I am walking the woods for hogs or deer, I can easily slip one of these in for squirrels. The loads are VERY subsonic, but crush bushytails heads like one of those pumpkins on TV. load the buckshot while the alox is wet and it kinda glues in the neck. I seat mine flush to the neck so if I see a squirrel I can just stick one of the loads in the tube mag and work the action once. My loads hit one inch right of my normal sight at 25 yards and will do about an inch group for 4 shots. Easily compensated for and very economical. Even if I saw a hog with one of those loads in the chamber and shot it on accident, I doubt the hog would run before I could stick him again.

[W.R.Buchanan]

zuke: I have a M6 Scout .22LR/.410. It might be what you're looking for. they fold completely in half and will come completely apart easily and back together in 15 seconds (one pin). They are about as simple a gun as you can get, and will fire shorts or LR's.

They also have a version that is .22 Hornet /.410. Mine weighs right at 5 lbs. with the ammo in place in the stock, I also have a sock that goes on the stock with a few more .410's . I have .410 slugs and buckshot but neither one would be my first or even third choice for shooting big game. It just better than nothing in a pinch..410 slugs are 95 gr. The 22 barrel is very usable, and I have shot doves on the wing with the .410 and 3" #6's. Grouse would be no problem either on the ground or in the air.

They were originally USAF Survival Rifles and were .22 Hornet/.410 and had 14" barrels. This one is a civilian version made by Springfield Armory and has 18.25" barrels.

This might work for you and I would think being an Indian subsistance hunter they would be a bit more lienient as to what kind or how many guns you carry while hunting. This gun would pack away neatly in your backpack so no one would know you have it unless it was out in the open.

Good luck on your quest.

Randy

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[preparehandbook]

I've heard they fixed the problems with that one. I've owned an original and it was great. Then I bought a henry and it was unshootable. Spent hours trying to tune it so I could get through a mag at a time, no luck, gave it away.

Since then I've heard it's been fixed up, so I guess I'll buy another.

well it's a while later now and I bought back my troublesome henry AR7 (the price was too good) I went over the action again with a stone and emery cloth and now it's working great.

I still think the chipmunk is sturdier.

[Forrest r]

I'd be looking at air rifles, pellet guns or whatever else you want to call them. Pellet guns are extremely well made, highly accurate, quiet & ammo is cheap.

I use one to dispatch vermon around the yard, it has no problems killing crows, rats, skunks & other untwanted animals. I use a 6x mil-dot scope & all my shots are 10yds to 30yds.

[preparehandbook]

+1 on the airgun idea