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09-22-2010, 09:13 PM
I am looking for a jacketed bullet that compliments both .30 30 & .30 06 in a same bullet weight any ideas trying to standardize for accuacy loads to 400 yds. Also cast boolit weights for .30 30. for up to 200 yds. Thank you. Capt. Lewis

hamour
09-22-2010, 09:37 PM
The 30-30 170 gr round-flat nose from various makers are a great bullet for either 30-06 or 30-30

Load the 170gr to starting to middle loads in the 30-06, normal loads in the 30-30. If you drive the 30-06 to top velocity you might over stress the bullet.

I picked up almost 5000 Remington 30-30 170gr bullets years ago, they have done great on deer from either of the two rounds.

9.3X62AL
09-22-2010, 09:42 PM
The 30-06 and 30-30 are "apples and oranges" ballistically with jacketed bullets, owing to disparate velocity envelopes that affect bullet construction differences for controlled expansion.

I usually use 170 grain flatpoint j-words in the 30-30, and 165 or 180 grain spitzer j-words in my '06. Similar weights, but the 30-30 bullet is optimized for expansion at striking velocities much lower than the 30-06 bullets are.

Most 30-30s feed from tubular magazines, and spitzer bullets aren't the best idea for those applications. However remote the likelihood might be, there is always the chance of a magazine discharge as the rounds shunt down the tube. In the 30-06, you compromise its ranging ability for long distance shooting by using a round-nose or flat-point bullet. This isn't critical at the ranges most of us hunt within, but it is a potential handicap in a few venues.

A 30-30 bullet "downloaded" in the 30-06 to 30-30 velocities would be a good thing, and would likely work for 90% of the deer taken in this country--which the 30-30 is eminently capable of doing 90% of the time as well. The Remington 150 grain Core-Lokt RN or Sierra 170 flatpoint suggest themselves here, just keep them at or under under 30-30 speeds at the muzzle. That will save you some venison from getting bloodshot.

NickSS
09-29-2010, 06:01 AM
I have used 150 gr RN Core lock Remington bullets in both the 30-30 and 30-06 for deer hunting and they worked just fine. I loaded the 30-30 to full power with them and loaded the 06 to around 2650 fps. The furthest I ever shot a deer with either rifle was around 125 yards so I can not speak to 400 yards for that bullet. However, I personally would never shoot at a deer beyond around 300 yards unless I used a range finder to know the distance and had time to adjust the sights for that distance as other wise there is too much chance of wounding the animal. I have killed over 60 head of big game and never shot further than 300 yards on any of them except one time when I was very young and stupid. I lucked out and killed the animal with one shot but believe me when I say that that was way more luck than skill as it was a Hail Mary shot if I ever took one.

Lloyd Smale
09-29-2010, 07:11 AM
3030 bullets are thin jacketed and are designed for 3030 velocitys. Im sure you could make them work at 06 velocitys but on a close shot penetration would be iffy and meat damage severe. Using 06 bullets in the 3030 give the oposite problem. expasion would be iffy and most are pointed and shouldnt be used in a tubular mag. For the 30 bucks a box they cost id buck up and buy whats right for each gun.

Pepe Ray
09-29-2010, 11:26 AM
apparently no one realizes that Nosler produces the answer to your question.
The 170 gr, R.N., partition bullet.
You did not require that it be "cheap".
Pepe Ray

Jack Stanley
09-29-2010, 09:13 PM
A friend of mine uses a hundred seventy grain flat nose loaded to twenty-five hundred out of his three oh eight Winchester . It's worked quite well at killing deer at a hundred to two hundred yards . I imagine it would work farther out but he hasn't tried it farther yet , he uses this set up when he knows shots will be more than a hundred yards out .

It smacks deer down about like a varmint rifle smacks woodchucks except it doesn't blow them up .

Jack