Lyman 311290 HP'd

[Ben]

Just received my Lyman 311290 that was HP'd by Erik.

As usual, excellent workmanship ! ! !

Now to cast a few. These weighed in at 222 grs. prior to HP'ing. These HP's that I cast today weigh 207 grs. with lube and g/c. Bands mike .3115, nose .3015". G/C is a good snug fit.

I have a variety of pins for this one also. ( cup points, deep HP pins, flat pin with no HP at all , etc . )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311290%20Hollow%20Pointed/PICT0001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311290%20Hollow%20Pointed/PICT0006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311290%20Hollow%20Pointed/DSCN0934.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311290%20Hollow%20Pointed/DSCN093489.jpg

Look at the group my 06' was shooting with this bullet prior to the HP work :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/PICT0004-18.jpg

[Hardcast416taylor]

VERY NICE!! Robert

[Glen]

I'm guessing what, 1400 fps? That HP should do a fine job on deer!

[Ben]

Glen :

I hope so ! !

Ben

[RobS]

Look good and apparently shoots very good too.

[Doby45]

You and your stinkin sexy 30cal boolits. ;)

[JeffinNZ]

Giggity, giggity, goooo! Nice.

[fatnhappy]

You're killing me Ben. You're just killing me......
I have an itch for that boolit but there isn't a chance in hell I'd tinker with my 311290 since it shoots so well as is. Looks like I need to find another 311290 to play with.

FWIW I had no issue at all with my redneck HP 311290s at 2K. Expansion was fantastic on a 140# dressed buck and it still managed to punch through a shoulder blade on the way in and a couple ribs. I would liken it's performance to the old nosler solid base bullets.

[Ben]

fatnhappy :

I finally shot my HP's today that you see in the above photos. I also tested them for penetration and expansion. Stellar results in both categories.

As you can see from the test target shown above, the bullet shot real well as a solid. " Beagle " has always told me that he has never seen a HP'd bullet that didn't shoot better as a HP than it did as a solid. So, I decided to take a chance with my mold. I have no regrets.

I shot the HP's at 80 yards,( as you see in the target below )..5 shots....30/06, 16.0 grs. of 2400. My deer stand will barely allow a shot of that distance ( pretty thick where I'm hunting ) many of my shots will be much closer. The bullets were sized .3097" with a honed Lee Push thru sizer. When the bullets come from the Lee push thru ( Nose 1st ) sizer, I then move over to my Lyman 45 and lube ( only ) with a .311 H & I sizing die using my own lube that I make locally. For me, this strategy seems to offer the very best accuracy in my rifles. The " Nose 1st " sizing system, in my opinion, is " THE WAY " to size a bullet.

This will kill deer all day long for me where I'm hunting ! ! !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311290%20Hollow%20Pointed/007.jpg

[MtGun44]

Very nice looking boolits, and they sure shoot well, too!

Gonna be a bad time for some deer this fall.

Bill

[gunsbrad]

Amen

Brad Hurt

[Brother_Love]

Ben, Do you a filler with this load? Thanks, Malcolm





Just received my Lyman 311290 that was HP'd by Erik.

As usual, excellent workmanship ! ! !

Now to cast a few. These weighed in at 222 grs. prior to HP'ing. These HP's that I cast today weigh 207 grs. with lube and g/c. Bands mike .3115, nose .3015". G/C is a good snug fit.

I have a variety of pins for this one also. ( cup points, deep HP pins, flat pin with no HP at all , etc . )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311290%20Hollow%20Pointed/PICT0001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311290%20Hollow%20Pointed/PICT0006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311290%20Hollow%20Pointed/DSCN0934.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311290%20Hollow%20Pointed/DSCN093489.jpg

Look at the group my 06' was shooting with this bullet prior to the HP work :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/PICT0004-18.jpg

[Blammer]

once again, we see targets that continually miss the dot or the penny... sheesh.... :)


GREAT shooting!

I too have found that the Lee push through, going nose first to size and check is the way to go, then I use my lyman for lubing. Prevents that nasty nose bulging on the HP's. :)

[Ben]

BrotherLove :

Ben, Do you use a filler with this load? Thanks, Malcolm

No filler of any type used.
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Blammer :

With the current financial situation, I can't afford to hit the penny, I might need it ! !

Thanks,
Ben

[Doby45]

Ben what are you lubing your boolits with prior to them going through the push through sizer?

[Brother_Love]

Ben,
I am surprised that you use no filler with only 16 gr of 2400. But, I consider you the expert with 2400 and you have the groups to prove it. I am loading some 311284's w/2400 this morning w/o filler.
Thanks for your help, malcolm

[94Doug]

Malcolm, that load is a standard with no filler in most standard size .30 cases, most boolits recomended by C E Harris. The article is here.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=13425

Doug

[Ben]

Ben what are you lubing your boolits with prior to them going through the push through sizer?

Each bullet gets a VERY thin film of black moly grease prior to going through the Lee Nose 1st sizing die.

Once the bullet is sized , it is taken over to my Lyman 45 and lubed with an H & I sizer that is larger than the sized bullet. This allows lubing of the bullet but NO FURTHER SIZING.

It has been a good system for me ! !

[Doby45]

Thanks brother, excellent job..

[excess650]

Those are beautiful bullets, and has me contemplating having one of my heavyweights HPed. How would they perform at 2000fps? Would a low antimony content alloy just blow the nose off?

Would a flat nose, or very shallow HP be better than the deep HP at the higher velocity?

[Ben]

Maybe Glen will step in here and respond to your questions. He has a lot of experience with the behavior of HP's.

[Glen]

At 2000 fps, pretty much all cast HPs will lose their nose very quickly. I like a shallow cavity for higher velocity HP loads (like the one I put together for the .30-40 Krag:
http://www.lasc.us/FryxellCB30-40Krag.htm )