Buckshot
09-06-2006, 12:11 AM
............I just HAD to post :-)! Poor ole Deputy Al had to go to court, but it was for something he didn't do. I mean not that he was ACCUSED of something and had to go defend himself or anything. Or that he'd NOT done something he was supposed to do. Some other people he knew from his cop days invited him to go to court because he knew some stuff.
Whatever, he wasn't there and too bad to! We shot centerfire and rimfire pistol offhand for score at 25 yards. Irons sights only. I LIKE my K38 Smith a whole bunch so I don't mind shoosting peestols anymore. Plus my Ruger MkII 678 has always been accurate so I've never minded using it.
Before I get to the whoopa$$ part, I took a brand new Rem 581 I'd bought from El Pistolero (a member here) a couple months ago. He said the guy he'd bought it from had fired maybe a box of ammo through it. It looks it and is tight as a drum. Only has the slightest bluing wear on the bolt. I'd fired maybe 20 rounds through it the day I got it.
I took a box of Aguila 60gr SS Super Sniper, PMC Scoremaster Std Vel, and a box of Wolf Match/Target. I only took the Super Sniper's as a chance to shoot a few more of them up. I'd bought 2 bricks a couple years ago and none of my 22 rifles liked it. My Martini will shoot them point on, but they make like a 3-4" group at 50 yards. The CZ sprays them all over as does the Rem 582, with lots going through sideways. An older Western Auto type Savage-Stevens bolt action did the best, shooting them point on at 50 yards into 1-1/2 to 2" groups.
So since the 581 is just a clip fed version of the tube feed 582 I expected it to do the same. Spray'em that is. The 581 has a Bushnell Banner 4X scope, with somewhat coarse crosshairs. The 582 had a Bushnell 3-9x40. So benched at 50 yards the first 3 rounds of the 60 gr Super Snipers went less then 1". Well less :veryconfu. I thought hmmmmmmmm? Three fliers all flying together? I got 2 more sandbags and put them under the buttstock and fired the last 2 in the magazine. They went 1" right and maybe 1/4" apart. Aha, they're starting to open up.
Just to verify, I loaded another mag and fired using the same aimpoint. These 5 went right there with the last 2! Another 5 rounds did the same thing. I now had 12 rounds in 3/4". If I could have deleted 2 wide ones it would have been close to 1/2"! Ye-haw [smilie=w: BTW, the crosshairs are coarse enough to just about cover up the 1" white dot. So the Rem 582 sprays them all over with some going through sideways, and the Rem 581 shoots them EXTREMELY well? Odd things, 22 rifles.
The other guys started to show up so I fired only 5 rounds of the PMC Scoremaster (which NONE of my other 22's like) and they went 3/8". Five of the Wolf Match/Target did a bit worse. I ended up firing 15 of them into maybe 3/4".
So after lunch it was on to the match. It was hot today, going 103 but since the line is covered and we had a bit of a breeze and it wasn't too bad.
So today I shot my personal best peestol score ever. I managed a 94-2X for 10 rounds.That was on a small pistol bull. I don't know how many rounds I have through that pistol since cleaning. I always wipe it off with a silicone impregnated rag before putting it up though. The load was the Lee 358-148 WC cast of pure lead in their 6 cav mould. Then they were tumbled lubed with thinned TL. Powder charge was the typical 2.7grs of Bullseye.
It was spooky as those white holes kept showing up in the middle of the target:bigsmyl2: I just KNEW I'd wake up soon. Glen saw my target as I finished up the first 5 rounds and said, "Screw this. I'm not going to waste my ammo shooting", but he did. I didn't do as well with the 22 as I only shot a 80-2X with it.
El Pistolero brought his brand new CZ 527 in 223. Hadn't even been shot yet. It had barrel sights but he rear one is fixed and moveable in it's dovetail for windage. Really wants a scope. Nice wood and a little short 20" tube. It has a nice single set trigger that makes it real easy to hit with. Unset the trigger is pretty sad. He had been taken with Deputy Al's little Ruger M77 in 223 with it's 20 " bbl, so I suppose this was his reply.
...............Buckshot
Whatever, he wasn't there and too bad to! We shot centerfire and rimfire pistol offhand for score at 25 yards. Irons sights only. I LIKE my K38 Smith a whole bunch so I don't mind shoosting peestols anymore. Plus my Ruger MkII 678 has always been accurate so I've never minded using it.
Before I get to the whoopa$$ part, I took a brand new Rem 581 I'd bought from El Pistolero (a member here) a couple months ago. He said the guy he'd bought it from had fired maybe a box of ammo through it. It looks it and is tight as a drum. Only has the slightest bluing wear on the bolt. I'd fired maybe 20 rounds through it the day I got it.
I took a box of Aguila 60gr SS Super Sniper, PMC Scoremaster Std Vel, and a box of Wolf Match/Target. I only took the Super Sniper's as a chance to shoot a few more of them up. I'd bought 2 bricks a couple years ago and none of my 22 rifles liked it. My Martini will shoot them point on, but they make like a 3-4" group at 50 yards. The CZ sprays them all over as does the Rem 582, with lots going through sideways. An older Western Auto type Savage-Stevens bolt action did the best, shooting them point on at 50 yards into 1-1/2 to 2" groups.
So since the 581 is just a clip fed version of the tube feed 582 I expected it to do the same. Spray'em that is. The 581 has a Bushnell Banner 4X scope, with somewhat coarse crosshairs. The 582 had a Bushnell 3-9x40. So benched at 50 yards the first 3 rounds of the 60 gr Super Snipers went less then 1". Well less :veryconfu. I thought hmmmmmmmm? Three fliers all flying together? I got 2 more sandbags and put them under the buttstock and fired the last 2 in the magazine. They went 1" right and maybe 1/4" apart. Aha, they're starting to open up.
Just to verify, I loaded another mag and fired using the same aimpoint. These 5 went right there with the last 2! Another 5 rounds did the same thing. I now had 12 rounds in 3/4". If I could have deleted 2 wide ones it would have been close to 1/2"! Ye-haw [smilie=w: BTW, the crosshairs are coarse enough to just about cover up the 1" white dot. So the Rem 582 sprays them all over with some going through sideways, and the Rem 581 shoots them EXTREMELY well? Odd things, 22 rifles.
The other guys started to show up so I fired only 5 rounds of the PMC Scoremaster (which NONE of my other 22's like) and they went 3/8". Five of the Wolf Match/Target did a bit worse. I ended up firing 15 of them into maybe 3/4".
So after lunch it was on to the match. It was hot today, going 103 but since the line is covered and we had a bit of a breeze and it wasn't too bad.
So today I shot my personal best peestol score ever. I managed a 94-2X for 10 rounds.That was on a small pistol bull. I don't know how many rounds I have through that pistol since cleaning. I always wipe it off with a silicone impregnated rag before putting it up though. The load was the Lee 358-148 WC cast of pure lead in their 6 cav mould. Then they were tumbled lubed with thinned TL. Powder charge was the typical 2.7grs of Bullseye.
It was spooky as those white holes kept showing up in the middle of the target:bigsmyl2: I just KNEW I'd wake up soon. Glen saw my target as I finished up the first 5 rounds and said, "Screw this. I'm not going to waste my ammo shooting", but he did. I didn't do as well with the 22 as I only shot a 80-2X with it.
El Pistolero brought his brand new CZ 527 in 223. Hadn't even been shot yet. It had barrel sights but he rear one is fixed and moveable in it's dovetail for windage. Really wants a scope. Nice wood and a little short 20" tube. It has a nice single set trigger that makes it real easy to hit with. Unset the trigger is pretty sad. He had been taken with Deputy Al's little Ruger M77 in 223 with it's 20 " bbl, so I suppose this was his reply.
...............Buckshot