Win 748

[nighthunter]

What surplus powder is equal to Win 748? I've read a lot of good things about 748 and would like to try it but I don't like paying $22 per pound.
Nighthunter

[felix]

748 is a high performance powder, meaning lots of deterrent to make 38-40K the minimum pressure after ignition. Perhaps the best burn speed for 170-180 grainers in the 30-30 at 36 grains. Excellent in the 222 as well at 26 grains. Not for 30-06 sized cases, or any case size where less than 90 percent density can be used. ... felix

[David R]

Perhaps this will work?

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Special Ball. like H380 surplus 8lb.84.00, Limited supply
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From Pats Reloading

[felix]

Yes, H380/H414 speed is a little slower than that of 748. Hopefully, SpecialBall and/or DATA 79 will tolerate lower pressures. I have no experience using any of these with cast, and it is about time someone found out. I am assuming these are a fast lot of WC852, and, if so, they all should work nicely. Data 79 at Powder Valley or Natchez Shooters Supplies ... felix

[Marlin Junky]

I looked for DP79 about a month ago... everyone's sold out. Try DP74 at Powder Valley:

http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

For more info about DP74: http://www.accuratepowder.com/datapowder_dp74.htm

MJ

[felix]

Excellent choice for 25-45 grain cases using lead. ... felix

[9.3X62AL]

I haven't used much WW-748 with cast boolits, but it's a GREAT powder for full-value j-word loads in 223, 308, and 30-30. I just ordered some WC-844 to get close to WW-748 performance with J-words in 223. WC-844 is the mil-spec powder for the 5.56 x 45 caliber, BTW.

[Marlin Junky]

I didn't see the comment on Special Ball earlier. Special Ball from Pat's Reloading is fantastic in the 30-30 with RCBS 30-180FN at 15 BHN. Unfortunately, the last time I talked to Pat, he was down to his last drum and said he was going to keep some for himself.

I don't see Special Ball on his website anymore but give him a call at: 330-833-4360; evenings: 330-832-3843. 32 to 33 grains of this stuff in a 30-30 case sends 190+ grain boolits downrange at 2100 fps with tack-driving accuracy.

Good luck,
MJ

[catboat]

I'm not real sure on this, so you may want to ask others, but...
It was my impression that ball powders were not that safe to use in reduced loads. I seem to remember that elevated pressures may develope. Proper "speeds" of flake or extuded powders are more suitable for reduced loads.

Again, get other sources on this.