View Full Version : Re-chambering With Epoxy
Shooter
08-19-2010, 08:35 AM
What do you think of filling a large chamber with high grade epoxy to change caliber? Say .308 to .308X1.5, or .308 caliers to .32 S&W long.
I have single shots in mind. Alining the chamber with th bore and a release agent would be a concern.
2ndAmendmentNut
08-19-2010, 08:55 AM
Perhaps gluing in a metal chamber insert would be better, then just straight up epoxy. I really doubt if a chamber made of just pure epoxy would last very long. Although some of those two part epoxies continue to impress me.
Mk42gunner
08-19-2010, 08:56 AM
I think you would be better off with a steel chamber adapter.
Robert
cheese1566
08-19-2010, 09:55 AM
http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm
They may be able to make a custom adapter for you.
John Taylor
08-19-2010, 10:54 AM
I have not seen any epoxy that would hold up to the pressure/heat. I repair chamber often by boring out the old chamber and inserting a piece of barrel steel then cutting a new chamber. This only is a good idea if the chamber is going to be the same length or longer than the old chamber other wise you end up with a bullet jump to the rifling. If you want a smaller chamber then setting the barrel back is the best idea.
Pavogrande
08-22-2010, 01:11 AM
I have wonderd the same thing -- I have a win 73 with a badly pitted chamber and was thinking of trying to fill the hole and "rechamber" using a metal filled epoxy such as Devcon.
Regarding pressure, the metal filled epoxy is pretty strong and will withstand about 300degress.
Many years ago I used the Devcon to repair worn (egg shaped) king pin holes in a ford truck solid axel. It worked fine and never gave up.
shunka
08-22-2010, 08:38 PM
I have wonderd the same thing -- I have a win 73 with a badly pitted chamber and was thinking of trying to fill the hole and "rechamber" using a metal filled epoxy such as Devcon.
Regarding pressure, the metal filled epoxy is pretty strong and will withstand about 300degress.
Many years ago I used the Devcon to repair worn (egg shaped) king pin holes in a ford truck solid axel. It worked fine and never gave up.
please leave devcon, jb-weld, & etc where they are best used correctly.
for a chamber, this is a bubba-fix that will eventually fail, possibly catastrophically. no epoxy will withstand the temperatures and pressures in a chamber. under both, the material will eventually either melt & flow or shatter. the correct and durable repair is to ream the chamber larger and install a bushing with silver solder, braze, or the correct epoxy, and rechamber the bushing. this is similar to relining a barrel. Monsiuer Taylor knows wherof he speaks and is offering valuable advice for free.
yhs
shunka
Artful
08-23-2010, 01:04 AM
Well I don't know about a chamber put I tried several different plastic's trying to make a smaller volume case usable subsonic loads in 308 chamber - this is filling the case with plastic and then drilling a new primer flash tube and cutting a power reservoir to hold a specific small amount of powder so that you have subsonic ammunition that won't change when tipped up down or loaded from a magazine.
And in my experience the expoxy or other plastics always failed some in as few as 1 firing.
You find many old .30-06' Garands that were "Navy" sleeved with a metal spacer to use 308 ammo which was put held in with a locktite type solution as I remember.
mroliver77
08-24-2010, 06:25 AM
Artful,
I have done the same thing as you are trying by using lead alloy to fill the case. I get it very clean and flux the alloy immediately preceding the pour. Immediately quench the case after pour! I then drill out a powder chamber and a flash hole. It has worked well for me this way. 1 gr of Bulls Eye or a powder in that range works very well in the .223 and nets you a faster projectile and more uniform burn than the same charge in a unmodified case. So far I have done .223 and 30-06. I keep loads on the "lighter" side as warm loads do seem to carry some lead away. I have seen no lead fouling and have not followed up by weighing cases to see if I am losing lead or it is an illusion. Neck sized cases function well and extract fine. No evidence of the cases being annealed. Your mileage may vary.
Jay
John has it right bore out the chamber and thread in an insert. I have saved many old guns this way, including a Trapdoor with a nasty bulge.
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