Catshooter's .45 Auto round nose Group Buy is here

[Catshooter]

It's time. This is our version of the Lyman 452374, probably one of the most accurate .45 boolits ever. 45 2.1 got the exact nose profile from Lyman, all we've really changed is the lube groove to hold a bit more lube. I'll link the thread that we've been talking about this boolit in. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=7084 It's on page two, post 27.

This will be cut to weigh about 230 grains and drop at about .454. Six cavity Lee.

PM me for my address. Price is, as per usual, $59 with a buck going to a mould for our designer (45 2.1) He'll post up a picture as soon as he can.

I'll run this GB for a while to let people get their money together.

I'm not sure we'll get to 25 orders. If not, we will have to make ajustments.


Cat

[Cayoot]

Thanks for running these for a while. I'm trying to find things to sell on Evil Bay just to afford these GBs!

They sure do look like they are worth sacrificing for though!:drinks:

[PatMarlin]

Can't you ever run a "lame" group buy mold Cat?

I'm going broke with all these.. :mrgreen:

[Dutch4122]

I'm going broke with all these.. :mrgreen:

Ditto..............but you know I'm still in. I'll get the money by hook or crook. Just might take a little while. Please do us Group Buy addicts a favor and give this one enough time. I'll scrape up the funds somehow. :)

BTW, a big thanks for running this one, Cat.

[Catshooter]

Yah, these'll run awhile.

It's a little tough to balence, I want all these moulds now, not later, but my money tree needs time to grow new leaves too!

One also never knows just how long an oppertunitey like this will last. Finding a board that will participate in GBs, someone with the smarts and access to CAD to draw 'em up and some fool that'll volenteer to do all the work! And a company that will participate too! Almost forgot about Lee!


Cat

[DanWalker]

Thanks for running these for a while. I'm trying to find things to sell on Evil Bay just to afford these GBs!

They sure do look like they are worth sacrificing for though!:drinks:
two words of advice sir. "Sell Plasma".
Three trips to the blood bank and you've got the dough.

[PatMarlin]

One also never knows just how long an oppertunitey like this will last. Finding a board that will participate in GBs, someone with the smarts and access to CAD to draw 'em up and some fool that'll volenteer to do all the work! And a company that will participate too! Almost forgot about Lee!


Cat

Ain't that the truth. When this arrangement is gone it's GONE!.. [smilie=1:

[dragonrider]

Gotta check my 45 molds, I don't think I have a round nose except for a single cavity Lee that I will never use, So I will probably get in on this one also. Lately the wife has been asking "how many boolit loads do you need??, and I answer, how many are there??

[ron brooks]

PM sent. I want in.

[Edward429451]

I'm in.

Good timing! I got 61 bucks in me mad money account and de wife has been bugging me for it. Sorry honey, not this time!

PM me with your addy and I'll get a check right out to you.

[targetshootr]

Put me down for one too. I found a new intersection I can work to make the funds.

[BigSlick]

I'm in for two.

I've been looking for a .45 ACP mold for a few weeks now... perfect timing ;)

PM sent
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[LIMPINGJ]

I'm in for one, I just hope you can let this one run a little while to have time to recover from some of the other buys.
Jim

[PatMarlin]

Put one on my tab Cat.. :mrgreen:

[Catshooter]

Limpingj,

Don't worry, this'll run awhile.

Pat,

We need to talk about yer tab . . .

[Lloyd Smale]

I need one but what i need is a 200 grain version. Something to speed load in the 25 smiths with clips but lighter for less recoil.

[PatMarlin]

Net 30... :mrgreen:

[Catshooter]

Lloyd,

I think this one is just about 230 grains, sorry.

Pat,

Actually, you'll have a good 60 days, so that'll give you time to sell your house. :)


Cat

[PatMarlin]

The dog house? The Cat House? Which one?.. :confused: :mrgreen:

[Johnch]

Need to have direct deposit into your acount :drinks:

I will probely HAVE to have one

Johnch

[Nazgul]

I'm in, PM sent.

[Catshooter]

Pat,

May I direct your attention to my user name? Now just what use do you 'spose I'd have for a cathouse? Dog, now that's more like it!

johnch,

I can't see how one could, or should avoid it! Give in to the Dark Side, Luke! It is your destiny!

[PatMarlin]

Cat's application is WAY too binding Johnch... CYA!!!!!

Don't ask me how I know... :mrgreen:

[Aldeer]

Count me in. PM sent.

Aldeer

[alamogunr]

Check sent last week.

John

[Springfield]

I'm in, will send check next week when some of my stuff sells on e-bay.

[686]

My Check Is In The Mail. Thanks For Putting This Gb Up.

[Edward429451]

You should have my check by now. I don't usually have troubles with mail but sometimes I do and I want to be sure to get in on this and at the same time not hold the order up...

80907

[Catshooter]

I've got your check Edward. I'll try to put up the zip list tommorow.

[Catshooter]

To date.

79084
27405
35805
80907
38001
22554


Cat

[dmdracer]

I just aquired a 45 acp so Iwant in on this one.
Cat, is your addy the same as the 357 GB ? I'll get a check out in the next few days.
thanks
Dave

[Catshooter]

dmd,

Yep.


Cat

[Nazgul]

Check sent.

[Catshooter]

So far. Zip list.
79084
27405
35805
80907
38001
22554
47106
79424
33948

Cat

[Nazgul]

I am not in a hurry, never been in on a groupbuy, but would ask what the time frame is for these molds. Thanks.

[ebner glocken]

I'm probably going to be in on this one but would like to see a print before I commit.

[686]

Catshooter Did You Get My Check? Zip 33948

[Catshooter]

Nazgul,

You've got about a month.

Ebner,
Go the link in the first post in this thread, look at post #27 for a drawing.

686,
Yes, sorry I missed posting you. I'll do it now.


Cat

[Netherwolf]

...This will be cut to weigh about 230 grains and drop at about .454. Six cavity Lee.

PM me for my address. Price is, as per usual, $59 with a buck going to a mould for our designer (45 2.1) He'll post up a picture as soon as he can.

I'll run this GB for a while to let people get their money together.

I'm not sure we'll get to 25 orders. If not, we will have to make ajustments.Cat


Hey Guys,
I'm new here but not to casting. I'm interested in getting in on this GB but I have concerns about the mold dropping at .454. I'm currenting sizing a Lee .452 diameter RN bullet to .451 with no problem but I'm not sure if I'd be able to run a .454 diameter bullet through my .451 Star sizer without having to use excessive force or ending up with significant deformation of the bullet.

I'm curious to know why a .454 diameter bullet was choosen over a .452 diameter bullet. Like I said, I'm interested in this GB but I need someone to address my concerns.

TIA,
Netherwolf
BTW, Depending on the feedback I get, I'd be interested in a least two of these.

[45 2.1]

Hey Guys,
I'm new here but not to casting. I'm interested in getting in on this GB but I have concerns about the mold dropping at .454. I'm currenting sizing a Lee .452 diameter RN bullet to .451 with no problem but I'm not sure if I'd be able to run a .454 diameter bullet through my .451 Star sizer without having to use excessive force or ending up with significant deformation of the bullet.

I'm curious to know why a .454 diameter bullet was choosen over a .452 diameter bullet. Like I said, I'm interested in this GB but I need someone to address my concerns.

TIA,
Netherwolf
BTW, Depending on the feedback I get, I'd be interested in a least two of these.


The original Lyman specs called for a 0.454" base band and very slight protion in front of the lube groove. My Lyman 4 cavity casts them like those dimensions and I have absolutely no problem sizing them 0.452". I stayed with the exact Lyman specs except for the lube groove.

[Netherwolf]

I'm in for three molds. PM sent to Castshooter.
Netherwolf

[376Steyr]

My check for one mould went into the mail today. Many thanks for running these group buys!

[686]

how many orders do you have now?

[Catshooter]

Checks for nine in hand, sounds like three or four more on the way, and I'm in for three.

[MikeSSS]

I want one.

PM sent and will send MO soon as I get the address.

Thanks for running this.

[db2]

I will take two.

PM has been sent.

Thanks
db2

[Dutch4122]

Cat-

My check for one mold will go in the mail to you this week.

[Catshooter]

The latest of the greatest.

79084
27405
35805
80907
38001
22554
47106
79424
33948
46147
75002 X 2
Keep 'em coming.


Cat

[alamogunr]

I'm considering sending a check for another one. OK?
38001

[Catshooter]

Alamogunr,

Sure, the store's still open!

Here's to list to date.
79084
27405
35805
80907
38001
22554
47106
79424
33948
46147
75002 X 2
48415
74012
48112 X 3
67502
97470
98374
84601

I won't issue last call on this buy until the first week of November or so.


Cat

[Netherwolf]

Funds sent for three molds.

[db2]

Catshooter, I got a little behind. Check for two moulds went out this morning.
Thanks
db2

[Springfield]

Mine's still coming, just spent all my money on 1600 lbs of lead.

[SwedeNelson]

Catshooter
PM sent

Swede Nelson

[PatMarlin]

For some reason, I quit getting notices on this thread.. :confused:

Cat, please put me down for one... :drinks:

[alamogunr]

Alamogunr,

Sure, the store's still open!

Here's to list to date.
79084
27405
35805
80907
38001
22554
47106
79424
33948
46147
75002 X 2
48415
74012
48112 X 3
67502
97470
98374
84601

I won't issue last call on this buy until the first week of November or so.


Cat



Cat, Did you get the check for the 2nd mold??

John

[Catshooter]

Updates.


79084
27405
35805
80907
38001 X 2
22554
47106
79424
33948
46147
75002 X 2
48415
74012
48112 X 3
67502 X 2
97470
98374
84601
95124

Last call will be in about a week.



Cat

[db2]

Hey catshooter, you have me listed with one mould. I sent a check for two. With so many GB's going on I just wanted to keep things clear.:)

Thanks
db2
67502

[Springfield]

I don't see my zip code listed, did you receive my payment yet? 95124

[Catshooter]

db2,

Corrected.

Sprinfield,

Added.


Cat

[686]

catshooter when does it look like the order will go out to lee for the 230 gr rn 45 acp mould?

[Catshooter]

686,

I'll put in last call next weekend, then wait a week or two, then send it in.

Of course that assumes I get the drawing from 45 2.1. Haven't seen it yet.


Cat

[45 2.1]

686,

I'll put in last call next weekend, then wait a week or two, then send it in.

Of course that assumes I get the drawing from 45 2.1. Haven't seen it yet.


Cat


Just got back up so I could post drawings, you'll see a lot of things to deplete your savings. The 44 and 45 drawings will go out this coming week.

[Catshooter]

Right on.


Cat

[Catshooter]

The latest arrivals:
79084
27405
35805
80907
38001 X 2
22554
47106
79424
33948
46147
75002 X 2
48415
74012
48112 X 3
67502 X 2
97470
98374
84601
95124
59932
74429
46307
96041

[neerb]

M.O. went in the mailbox today for 1 of these.

[sundog]

74429 check mailed 10/30. Has it showed it up yet? sundog

[686]

come on shooters place your order now so catshooter cat get the order off to lee. im in fl. would be nice to havbe it while we have some cold to cast in. no snow here.

[BigSlick]

686,

I'll put in last call next weekend, then wait a week or two, then send it in.

Of course that assumes I get the drawing from 45 2.1. Haven't seen it yet.


Cat


come on shooters place your order now so catshooter cat get the order off to lee. im in fl. would be nice to havbe it while we have some cold to cast in. no snow here.


+1, time to get this show on the road. It's casting weather ;)

It's been well over two months since this GB was announced, maybe everyone that has any interest is already in 8-)
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[Catshooter]

I'm just waitin' on the drawings kids. Soon as they get here I'll send it off.

[45 2.1]

I'm just waitin' on the drawings kids. Soon as they get here I'll send it off.

You should about have it. It and the 44 went in Tuesday mornings mail.

[PatMarlin]

Dad- will you hurry up?!! ......:groner:

[Catshooter]

Drawings in hand.

[ebner glocken]

Is there still time to get in on this one?

[Dan in Wa]

Am I too late?
99828

[Catshooter]

Yep there is still time. PM me for addy.

[ebner glocken]

I have your addy from a previous group buy. Check will be in the mail tomorrow morning.

[OLPDon]

This is better the the Home Shopping Network I guess, "Lighter Wallet heaver Bullet's is the fraze of the day"
I'm in on this one too!
zip 07208 Please PM Address will mail out Check as soon as I get address
Thank's
Don

[686]

Will The Moulds Be In By Xmas? 2006 That Is ? What Is Normal Once You Send In The Order To Lee? When Will The Order Be Going To Lee.?

[Edward429451]

Judging by the way other GB's have gone, I'd be looking for it around late January early February. I could be wrong of course but am trying to be realistic.

[OLPDon]

07208 Check is the mail!!!!!!

[Catshooter]

Edward is correct.

[LIMPINGJ]

Payment went in the mail yesterday evening.
Thanks for your work on this buy.
Jim
75440

[Catshooter]

The latest arrivals:
79084
27405
35805
80907
38001 X 2
22554
47106
79424
33948
46147
75002 X 2
48415
74012
48112 X 3
67502 X 2
97470
98374
84601
95124
59932
74429
46307
96041
75440
07208
97008
65605


Cat

[ebner glocken]

You should have a check from me in there. 65605

[BigSlick]

Heard some rumblings this afternoon at the gunshop about Lee having a price increase in December.

Do the price increases usually affect customs or GB's ?
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[Catshooter]

Sometimes they can. Since I haven't placed the orders yet, anything can happen. I'll let y'all know.

[686]

Can You Place The Order Now And Add To It Before They Start Or Finish Making Them?

[Catshooter]

Nope. Once the order is in, it's very tricky to change/add.

[BigSlick]

When are you going to place the order with Lee ?

These were posted as Last Call with about a week time frame on the 18th, are you still waiting on someone dragging their ass to get money in to you ?
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[Steve Collins]

OK,

Pick on the new guy! Nobody said I'd be buying TWO molds right from the git-go![smilie=b: It's a good thing I'm going to the Big Sandbox pretty soon, maybe I won't spend so much money there!

Check is in the mail

zip code 36870

[Catshooter]

This buy is now closed.

If you've already mailed your $ you're good. But no new ones.


Cat

[686]

All Right. Will You Let Us Know As To The Expected Date Lee List When You Send The Order In? Thanks

[Catshooter]

686,

I think maybe there's a word or something missing from the above post?

Are you asking if Lee will tell when to expect the moulds once I place the order? If so, nope is the answer. :)

I'll be placing the order before the year's out.


Cat

[686]

That Was What I Was Asking. I Guess I Will Just Melt Dowm Mere Ww And Mix Foe Casting When The Moulds Come In. What Do Any One Think About This Mixture? 10 Lb. Ww--2 Lb. Liontype-- And 6 Oz 60-40 Soder.

[felix]

Don't waste the Lino. Save for rifles. Otherwise OK. ... felix

[686]

i know lyman #2 is 9 lb ww and 1 lb 50-50 . with 10 lb ww how much liontype would you add to get lyman #2 ?

[BluesBear]

Since it getting more difficult to get good Linotype I would recommend saving it for other uses.

Wheel weights work pretty good as is for most handgun uses anyway.

The other formula for #2 is 5 pounds of wheel weights, 4 pounds of pure lead, and 1 pound of 50/50 solder.

The modern version of #2 is 92% lead, 2% tin and 6% antimony.
Linotype is 84% lead, 4% tin and 12% antimony.
You can't add Linotype to wheel weights and get a #2. Since wheel weights are not pure lead, you would have too much tin and antimony in the mix.

You CAN add Linotype to PURE lead and get a #2 alloy but not to wheelweights.

[georgeld]

Catshooter:
I've been offline with important business. elk hunt, broke the trk down, dad in hosp etc. Missed this one.

IF you end up with an extra, or someone decide's they'd rather not have it.

I'd like to have one.

Thanks,

[Springfield]

Well, my check was finally cashed, guess this is going to LEE soon, I hope. Now if my other mould buy, the 30 caliber with one large lube groove could be done also I'd be happy.

[Catshooter]

Update:

The order with a pretty fat check went to Lee early last week for this and the .44 Keith. I just checked online and my check to them hasn't yet cleared.


Cat

[Steve Collins]

About how long does it usually take for Lee to knock these out? Not trying to be pushy, just curious since I'm new to the group buy thing.[smilie=1:

[Catshooter]

Steve,

Two to three months, roughly.


Cat

[Edward429451]

Bump!

I'm getting that could be any day feeling...Heard anything yet? Should I be warmin up the pot yet, lol?!

[BigSlick]

Probably over another month or so away. You can warm up the pot, just cast something different for now ;)
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[Halfbreed]

I too am wishing I had gotten in on this one, if there were any extra molds made, I sure would like a shot at it.
If not, then maybe another GB on this same mold?
John

[Catshooter]

Boys,

There's been no sign yet. Course there never is until the moulds show up.

If you want in on any extras, PM me with your personal data/screen name.


Cat

[686]

catshooter any rumbles on this 45 acp rn mold?

[Ricochet]

You'd think sending a pretty fat chick to Lee with the order would've gotten quicker service.

[Edward429451]

Maybe that has something to do with the delay. I suspect they wanted a pretty thin chick, lol.

[686]

i guess not ever have been in on a gb it seems like a long time. but our ordering started in sept.06 . i thought my custom barrel was taking a long time. i ordered a nei mold fri. they said it would be here in 2 weeks. last time i ordered from them it was faster than that. yes a 6 cav is $130.00 but is is a much better more durbal better lasting more bullets to pick from mold. i wish we could get a gb lower price on even a stock mold. thanks

[BigSlick]

Ordering didn't take place until late December '06.

Delivery is (usually) 6-8 weeks, but can be sooner or take longer. Can Lee turn them out faster, yes, will they turn any particular order out faster than another, probably not.

They take their own sweet time and calling them doesn't usually help a lot. While it is a lot of money to us (collectively) it isn't really a drop in the bucket when compared to the numbers Lee deals with every day.

Does it seem like it has been forever and a day for these to get here, yes. But that still doesn't get Lee to move any faster.

Shouldn't be much longer now though (I hope).
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[Catshooter]

Boys,

Maybe the problem is that I sent the check, but I kept my thin chick here at home! Was I supposed to send my wife in too? Well, I screwed up, I guess.

Yea, their not here yet. I sure wish they were as I really want this mould.

Yes, the time it takes is the price we pay for not paying the $100 set up fee. I wish it was faster, but there you are.


Cat

[686]

catshooter any rumbles on this 45 acp rn mold? IS THIS TIME NORMAL? I KNOW YOU HAVE GB ORDERS BEFORE. THANKS

[Catshooter]

No, ******. I've been expecting them for about 3 weeks now, and no this isn't normal, whatever that means. *sigh*

I'll see if I can give them a call tomorrow.


Cat

[Catshooter]

Well boys, I called Lee today and they said 'Oh sure your order is here and we're working on it.' No idea *sigh*

Patience, boys, patience. That's all I've got.


Cat

[PatMarlin]

The nerve.. :rolleyes:

Don't they have any idea who you are? The great honcho CatShooter?... :mrgreen:

[Catshooter]

They just didn't perceive the true and awesome total of my power & glory!

Wow. I almost threw up writting that sentence.

I didn't joggle there elbows, I mean they're done when they're done.


Cat

[Edward429451]

Well at least we know we're back on top of the desk now instead of slipped thru the crack behind it, that's good I guess. Give em another call in a week to bring us back up top again. ;>)

[Catshooter]

686,

You ask for status more than any three people man. Don't worry, when they come I'll shout it from the roof tops.

Patience.


Cat

[686]

[xxxxxxx

[PatMarlin]

That's a new internet symbol. What's it suppossed to be? The finger pointing east?.. :mrgreen:

[686]

no those are just x's . i messed up on deleting i mesage. i dont use interet symbles. sorry catshooter for bothering you. like i said i am new to groop buying. as you said you were has been expecting them for 3 weeks, and that was 2 weeks ago i did not think of it as wrong to ask. i do not bind weighting what ever it takes, i just like to know what that time is normaly. i am sure it will be worth the weight. sorry for the bugging. thanks 686

[Edward429451]

They'll come. I can understand the holidays slowing them down but dang it's almost April! Lee's running out of excuses. Almost time for a group call...

As long as they're not undersized it'll be worth the wait.

[Catshooter]

I know it's a bitch waiting. I know. I come every day - and, nope, not yet.

I don't mean to chew on ya 686. These two are taking the longest I've done. But they're in the line up at Lee, and they get done when they get done and that's all she wrote. *sigh* I'm sorry I got short with you.

I don't even what to think about them not being right.


Cat

[BigSlick]

Did you get any info on these when you talked to Lee on the 429421 buy today Cat ?

If these don't show up soon, I'm gonna have to buy some bullets for the 45 ACP. I'm down to my last couple of hundred.
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[OLPDon]

BigSlick:
I see the problem as not having enough cast Boolits rather short on other mean of there use. You need to get different cal.'s Pistoles and not spend so much time on one Cal.:kidding:[smilie=1:

Don............

[BigSlick]

No doubt.

My 32 H&R is in for a trigger job and front sight drill so I can use different height sites since it isn't elevation adjustable.

My 10mm is in getting a new barrel fit so I can shoot 40SW thru it too.

My 40SW is getting a refinish and a fresh set of sights and a beavertail blended

My 9mm is waiting on a couple of mag springs and some new grips

... and the 500SW just wears me out to shoot all day long with the 440gr bruisers.

Left with my trusty LW Commander ;)

I know, I need more guns for times like this.
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[Catshooter]

I sent this one and the 429421 in at the same time - paid with one check so they are actually one order. The same order. So they're both comin. Soon. I hope.


Cat

[targetshootr]

Hot dig. Thanks for doing these Cat. And 45 1.2 too.

[Edward429451]

This is going to be one of the greatest moulds ever. It's a great boolit and the 6 cav capacity means life will be easier now to feed the growing family of 45's. ..

I didn't realize this was a double order along with the 429421. Maybe that slowed em down some too somehow. Too bad I couldn't get in on the 429421, that family is growing too and is hoongry. :>)

[HHI 812]

Sounds like I might be too late on this one, but haven't been shooting for quite a while. Any chance Lee would do this again? Any chance anyone would sell a couple hundred of these bullets to try out? Sorry for the dumb questions, but its been a bunch of years. Thanks, Dennis

[Buckshot]

...............The folks on the British and Militaria forums sent in their order to Lee a few weeks back. Mid Feb I believe. I think they had 4-5 boolit designs (previously done by Lee before). I'm in on 3 of those too :-). Anyway the ringleader there said when he'd talked to Lee last that there were several "Big Cast Boolit Custom" orders ahead of them so they're looking at June sometime, hopefully, maybe, prayerfully patiently hoping June.

................Buckshot

[Catshooter]

Man, I was really hoping they'd show in time for me to ship 'em this weekend, but no. ******.


Cat

[Catshooter]

Gentlemen,

There here. And they are great I grabbed one and cast up some samples. They come out at .455, all all six! In truth, one was .4552.

With the lead I had in the pot, they weighed in a 224 grains, all of 'em.

I'll get 'em packaged up this weekend and they'll go in the mail at the beginging of the week.


Cat

[Edward429451]

Super sweeet.

[targetshootr]

:drinks:

[ron brooks]

Yippee!!!!!

[BigSlick]

Great news ;)

Thanks for your efforts Cat, and to 45 2.1 for doing the drawing.

I'll think good things about you guys every time I drop a few.

Perfect timing too, I ran out of 45 ACP bullets over the weekend. :Fire:

Now if any of you that didn't get in on this wants one of mine, I'll certainly entertain the idea of a swap for a 32 Keith 98 GB mold :mrgreen:
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[686]

catshooter show us some pictures of the new bullet

[Steve Collins]

Cool!!!! 'Course, I get to wait 'til I get back from Iraq to break it in...:(

[Halfbreed]

I know this is just wishful thinkin here, but i am really hoping there is an extra mold available.
John

[Edward429451]

My mould came today, looks great. I'll prolly cast some before the weekend.

Hey, thanks a lot for honchoing this GB catshooter, and to 45 2.1 for his design work.

Whoo Hoo!!

[ron brooks]

Mine came today. Many thanks.

[db2]

Catshooter both moulds showed up today in great shape thanks for running this. Time to heat up some lead.

db2

[PatMarlin]

Catshooter is master El Honcho supreme, cept for the cat part. He can't shoot my cat.. :twisted: :mrgreen:

[Edward429451]

I couldn't wait, I casted some. .455 on the money and they look great. It used to take me half a day to cast what I just cast in an hour.

[dmdracer]

I was casting some 200 gr lswc yesterday a/n when my wife shows up with the mail and this Lee package containing the above mold...quick clean up and I was casting some nice boolits.

measured .453 with straight WW's water dropped.

Thanks Cat for your efforts on this buy.

Dave

btw.... recieved my Alox gallon GB today. best get busy huh?

Any one shot these yet and what receipe did you use ?
Thanks

[ebner glocken]

Thanx for running this buy. Today I received two moulds in the mail and both looked great. It was unfortunate that they was both identical. An honest and humorous mistake. Please PM me for particulars to correct this.

[OLPDon]

Mould arrived safe and sound. Thanks for the Honcho great job well done ect.....

Must admit all the Group Buy's does lighten the load on the wallet saves one the back so no need to go to chropractor, therefore in the long run better health and longevity. There I go I have now justived getting more molds.

Thanks once again.
Don 07208

[alamogunr]

Still waiting for my molds (2). I mentioned on another GB thread that mail to Tennessee has been very slow lately. Looking forward.
John
"alamogunr"

[Halfbreed]

Ebner Glocken, if there is not anything that can be done, I would be interested in buying one. I messed around till it was too late to get in the group buy, I have e-mailed Catshooter about buying an extra mold if one just happened to come up. But so far nothing has been said if there is an extra.
John

[Catshooter]

Ebner,

PM sent. Don't worry, we can and will fix.

Halfbreed and others wanting an extra,

I am sad to say that I made a mistake with Ebners moulds. Here I thought I was perfect in every way!:) This though is why I wait a good while to let go of the extras. Give it a few weeks and then I'll let every know about what extras are available.


Cat

[Springfield]

Haven't received mine in California, hopefully tomorow. Gonna try some of that new ALOX I just got a gallon of.

[PatMarlin]

Mine's available. I'll sell it for $600.. :Fire:

[Halfbreed]

Patmarlin $600.00 huh, rather have the kitty off the grill, the other white meat.

[OLPDon]

Cool!!!! 'Course, I get to wait 'til I get back from Iraq to break it in...:(

Too Bad you couldn't use them incountry I understand the perfect Lube would be hog renderings, would give that nice send off to the boolit and what ever is in its path but the rules of engagemet are as such. God speed and Thanks for your Service and well wishes for those at the Homefront.
There are many of State Side that know what a Outstanding Job is being done over there.
Don

[Halfbreed]

Catshooter, WHAAAT? You made a mistake? Now how did that happen? LOL
I cetainly ain't tryin to rush ya, just wonderin what is going on. If Ebner was going to have a problem with 2 acp molds, I was just going to offer to help him out with that.
How many deals are you honchoing anyway, 7er 5 now? Keep up the good work.
Thanks, John

[PatMarlin]

Catshooter slipped up cause he was spending to much time trying to figure out how he was gonna get my Cat, but it didn't work, so some mold orders fell though the cracks. I tried to warn him.. :mrgreen:

[686]

thanks catshooter i got my mold.i just wonder how many thous. bullets will be casted this weekend with there new mold?

[Catshooter]

I'll tell ya, using the round nose mould sure spoils a guy. Them Keith are a lot tougher to cast. 'Course they hit a bit harder though.

You guys are welcome. I don't enjoy the work so much, but man, I just can't pass up the oppertunity to buy these moulds for me. What a golden chance!


Cat

[Nazgul]

Cast a large pile with it yesterday. Will measure and load today.

They look good.

[PatMarlin]

Anybody launch wonna these puppies yet?

[Springfield]

Stop rubbing it in, guys, it's Saturday and the mailman just left and no mould yet. And some of you had them on Wednesday.

[Edward429451]

I havent launched any of them yet but I loaded some last night. It's a little taller than the 452374 and a little lighter, mine's throwin em at 223 grains.

I just casted another 500 or so and Catshooter's right, I love casting with this mould, they jus fall out.

[Springfield]

Now I am starting to get a little worried. Tuesday and no mould. Anybody else not receive theirs yet? Catshooter, were they all mailed at the same time or was there more than one batch?

[alamogunr]

Now I am starting to get a little worried. Tuesday and no mould. Anybody else not receive theirs yet? Catshooter, were they all mailed at the same time or was there more than one batch?

I haven't got mine either but I live in a small town (Alamo, TN). Sometimes our stuff gets sent to Texas even though I don't know of a town named Alamo in Texas. We are proud to be Crockett County too.

Catshooter, If I don't get the molds by this time next week, I'll PM you to see if they can be tracked.

Johh

[Catshooter]

They pretty much all went out at the same time. Hang on.


Cat

[Joel Chavez]

Alamogunr, there is a small town in Texas called Alamo. My wife was raised there. It is approx. 7miles from the Mexican border on the southern tip of Tx. The zip code is 78516. Hope I've helped some.:castmine:

[alamogunr]

Alamogunr, there is a small town in Texas called Alamo. My wife was raised there. It is approx. 7miles from the Mexican border on the southern tip of Tx. The zip code is 78516. Hope I've helped some.:castmine:

Well, It corrects my misinformation of no Alamo in Texas. It doesn't help me get my molds. If my molds went to Alamo, Texas, I may not get them for quite awhile. In the past when something was sent to Texas, It got an additional postmark in San Antonio. Also my ZIP, 38001, is fairly hard to miss.

Seriously, I feel sure they will show up any day now, although not today. All I got was bills today. Thanks for the head's up.

John

[Springfield]

OK, the moulds were mailed on the 9th, I assume, as quite a few received them on the 11th. Here it is the 20th and no mould. Is there any tracking numbers we can check on? Nothing should take 2 weeks to get here. I live in large city, not in the middle of nowhere. The longer we wait the better chance it never shows up.

[alamogunr]

OK, the moulds were mailed on the 9th, I assume, as quite a few received them on the 11th. Here it is the 20th and no mould. Is there any tracking numbers we can check on? Nothing should take 2 weeks to get here. I live in large city, not in the middle of nowhere. The longer we wait the better chance it never shows up.

Hey!! I think those of us in the "middle of nowhere" deserve to get our molds too. Seriously, I still hope mine come in the next few days. I'm waiting on 3 molds.

Catshooter, did you tape all three together or send them separately?

John

[Catshooter]

alamo,

Taped all three together. Oh God don't tell me they aren't there! One not showing is bad. Three is a disaster of epic proportions.

Cat

[alamogunr]

alamo,

Taped all three together. Oh God don't tell me they aren't there! One not showing is bad. Three is a disaster of epic proportions.

Cat

I probably shouldn't have commented but couldn't resist after "middle of nowhere" post. I still think they will show up. Maybe tomorrow.

Springfield: No offense. I just thought it was kind of funny that you thought that postal service should be better to a large city. I think just the opposite. Not as many places for a package to get lost. In this case, large or small, we are in the same boat.
John

[knothead]

What oal are you guys using for the 1911 on this, they look good a 1.88 I know thats long but the taper starts about there, and the nose is longer then my old saco rnl mold.

I'll load some and see how they group tomorrow.

[Edward429451]

I'm seating mine to 1.265 because of the longer nose where my original 452374's were being seated to 1.245.

[Springfield]

alamogunr: You may be right. The service may not be better but technically it should be faster as the packages get sent to fewer places the closer the final destination is to the main hub. It looks like Cat has tracked down my mould.

[alamogunr]

Springfield: Haven't seen mine yet. Since all our mail comes thru Memphis, it could be lost there for a long time. To give you an idea, I can mail a letter to another address here in town, it will go to Memphis, sit there for days and then be returned for delivery, possibly a few streets away a week later. Such are the tribulations of living in a small town with a second class post office.

I'll be looking again tomorrow. Hope springs eternal.

[knothead]

i meant 1.288, I pushed them to 1.265 and they look fine. I'll have a report sunday on how they fly...

[Halfbreed]

Any good news on the missing molds? does everybody else have theirs?
Wondering minds want to know,
John

[alamogunr]

Any good news on the missing molds? does everybody else have theirs?
Wondering minds want to know,
John

No good news on my end. Still have high hopes. USPS doesn't offer any help. They won't even confirm that they were mailed. See the quote from their web site below. This is what I got when I entered the delivery confirmation number that Catshooter furnished.

"The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on April 9, 2007 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later."

The local post office said that when (if?) it arrives they will scan it in. If that happens I will probably have it before they notify me by email.

I really do expect it to arrive someday. My biggest worry is that they threw them around so much that they may be damaged. At this point all I can do is wait and keep checking the mail box.

John

[sundog]

Cat, I've not seen mine. 74429. sundog

[PatMarlin]

I got mine, but I'm stuck in family fiascos down south, so won't know how she fly's for some time.

Anything the Cat does is the meow though.. :mrgreen:

[ebner glocken]

Got mine now. Thanx

[Springfield]

Got mine today. Cast some up with my regular soft mix, and they came out at .454 and 218 grains. I weighed some original Lyman bullets from my old mold and they are 222 lubed. Close enough. They are just a tad longer, though.

[alamogunr]

Still no sign of my molds. Got a package of brass that was mailed Thursday from OK. I feel sure that someday in some post office between here and WA, someone will find a package that got kicked under a table or something.

Cat, don't take my persistant posts personally. I just have to say something as the weeks go by. You have no control after the packages leave your hands.

John

[Catshooter]

Damn. I know I shouldn't take it personally, but it's hard not to. Did the tracking number help at all?

In the early '80's I paid Walt Melander (of NEI) to make the first .451-310 mould for me. Since it was a custom order I of course had to pay for the cherry. I ended up shorting him $2 in the confusion.

When my mould came, he said I needed to send him $2 more please. I did right away. Three or four months later I got my letter to him, with my check back from the post office. They had a stamp that said "Found in suposedly empty machinery." A stamp! Showed me how often that must happen.

Don't give up hope. Is there a tearful smiley? There should be.


Cat

[alamogunr]

Damn. I know I shouldn't take it personally, but it's hard not to. Did the tracking number help at all?



Don't give up hope. Is there a tearful smiley? There should be.


Cat

As I posted earlier, when I put the number on the USPS site, this was all I got:

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on April 9, 2007 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. No further information is available for this item

That is copied directly from their site. That same message has been there since I got the number. As I said in a previous post, my main concern, aside from the long wait, is that the molds will be damaged from being in the system so long. It would be my luck it got stuck in a truck and has been back and forth across the country a few times.

I won't say anymore about this before next weekend unless it arrives before then. I will definitely post if it arrives.

[Scrounger]

That means the shipper filed the electronic data on the shipment, but the PO has NOT received the package from the shipper, AS FAR AS THEY KNOW. Could be they do have it but it was never scanned into the system. They will show up in a few days.

[Edward429451]

I had a package be late from florida a couple weeks ago, and the USPS site gave me the same message. Nothing, nothing, nothing, and then it just showed up one day.

They launch good, boys! I had very good results with Power Pistol and WW-231 over the weekend. I haven't compared the data to the Lyman boolit yet but will tonight after work. I spect it'll be about the same. Power Pistol sure do make em fly straight.

[knothead]

They fly very nice with 4 gns of BE as well. Shoot as good as my original saco round nose.
Shot as tight at the sgts tatgetmaster load. Look funny, shoot good.
Look kinda like a fat 9mm.

[alamogunr]

Well folks! I guess I will have to live vicariously thru all those who got this mold and the 429421 mold. Another week has gone by and no molds. I have given up on them. I have imagined everything imaginable, including some postal clerk deciding that bullet molds were evil and destroying them.

It is no one's fault except the US Postal Service. I hope I have better luck with those GB's I've already committed to, but I think I will have to stay out of any future buys until I get over the disappointment of losing these. If these weren't custom molds, I would just go buy another of each. This was once in a lifetime.

John

[PatMarlin]

Dang John that sucks. 2 group mold buys missing? That sounds like sabotage.

I think yours should be sent UPS. I know Cat probably feels really bad about this.

But you're wrong on the lifetime deal... those buys will run again I guarantee.. :drinks:

[Catshooter]

****. Yes I do feel badly, very.

But don't worry Pat, UPS can loose stuff just as fast as the USPS.

This is why I don't sell any of the extra moulds I order with each GB until people get theirs.

alamo, PM coming your way.


Cat

[BluesBear]

Hey Catshooter,

No reason you should have to eat the Post Office screwup.
I'll be sending you $5 to help pay for replacing Alamo's missing moulds.
I know it ain't much. I'm sorry I can't do more.

I'll drop it in the mail to you tonight.

[PatMarlin]

That has sparked an idea...

Why don't we start a GB mold insurance account. If all of us contribute a certain amount say in a PayPal acount, it could be used to pay for a few extra molds in the GB's each time.

If something like this comes up, the account pays for the lost molds, and then the guy that had his lost in the mail gets his mold.

If no molds were lost, the Honcho could sell the extra insurance molds to the guys inline for extras, then put that back in the PayPal insurance account... :drinks:

[BluesBear]

I'd gladly chip in as long as it has nothing to do with those anti-gun a$$holes in PreyPal.
Just talk to dealers that have had their accounts frozen for selling lawful guns and legal gunparts.

Plus five years ago, they screwed my bank account (and me) to the tune of almost $1000.

[PatMarlin]

No need to worry BB.

The PayPal anti gun is an internet rumor and pure bunk. You can even use PayPal as an option with Gunbroker.com for cryn' out loud... :roll:

[Edward429451]

This board's been good to me. I know how the man must feel all this waitin and no mould after all. Cat shouldn't eat it either, he worked this buy to happen. I'm broke but dangit, I got 5 bucks to chip in to see the man get his mould. You guys work out the details on this and how we'll handle it in the future and I'm in. Lemmee know where the check goes.

[alamogunr]

Folks, just let me say that Catshooter has been more than fair with me in this ordeal. If he wants to post the details of his offer that I accepted, that is OK with me.
Although I think the chances are slim to none, if those molds show up undamaged, I will make sure that Catshooter is not out any $, and any extra $ that may be floating around can go to an insurance kitty if one is set up.

John

[targetshootr]

I have a 4 cav Lyman mold which is now a spare, if interested. By the way, just today Lee replaced my 429421 that dropped big boolits so they may still have it, if it would be of use.

[BluesBear]

How much are you asking for the Lyman?

[Catshooter]

This has happened now to two of the people that have purchased moulds in one of my GBs.

I've offered the same deal to both: I'll split the cost of the replacement mould(s) with 'em. This is why I won't let go of the extras that I buy for each GB until the smoke clears for the original purchasers. I don't know how else to do it. I don't think insurence is worth the hassel, even if you ever your money.

If some of you guys want to kick in a little dough to help offset this sort of bad luck you sure can. I don't do PayPal, and this board doesn't want anything more to do with these buys as they allready do.

Unless someone has a better idea the only thing I can think of is we pick some poor fool to hold our dough.

I too have gotten a tremendous value from this board. The way I look at these GBs is as a golden oppertunity. Anyone who hangs around the 'net very long sees the blow ups that can happen. They can happen here, too, and if one does this whole GB thing can go away. I don't know of any other board that is doing what we are and so this to me is the chance of a lifetime. Maybe others will do it later, too. Maybe not.

BlueBear & Edward, that's very generous of you to even offer.


Cat

[PatMarlin]

I'll be the poor fool to hold the dough. Just send me as much as you can, and often.. :mrgreen:

[targetshootr]

BB, I haven't thought up a price so far, wanted to see if it would help out whoever molds were lost.

Sometimes the PO will add delivery confirmation for 50 cents and one time they were able to see where some gun parts wound up that l thought were lost.

[Halfbreed]

I am in for $5.00, how about all the new gb molds sell for $5.00 extra, with the 5 bucks going to the insurance deal. I hate to see molds getting lost, maybe someday they will arrive, who knows. guess I will be trying a lee truncated cone. I was too late getting in on this one. but was hoping for an extra. Has everybody elsa gotten their molds?
I don't do pay pal, can I send a M O somewhere, to Catshooter specifically?
John

[sundog]

Cat, still no mould. And, don't you feel bad about a thing. You've done great service for the folks here! Hooah? Durn tottin', a big Hooah.

I can understand a post card falling behind a machine that may not get moved for another 36 or 51 years, and when found the postal folks make a media spread about delivering it. But a package the size of a Lee 6-banger? Gotta be kidding me. If someone in the chain lifted it, they should go away forever. For-freakin'-ever. No matter value. They've breached the trust of those they serve.

Now, what can I do from my end?

[Springfield]

I'm in the middle of my first GB as a Honcho. I plan on buying some extra molds, but I am for sure going to get delivery confirmation with the Priority shipping. I have shipped hundreds of packages that way, 'cause out of the few times I didn't bother a couple of them got lost. They never seem to lose the D.C. packages. Funny how that works. As for insuring them when shipped, I'm not sure it's worth it, it's not like we can take the money and run out and replace the mould easily.

[MakeMineA10mm]

How many folks didn't get their molds?

I'm thinking of running a group buy for an EXTREMELY similar bullet (basically the Lyman 452374 w/ a bevel base and larger, square-cut lube groove and a little heavier so it turns out at 230grs), and I'd be very happy to help out in this situation by ordering a couple extra molds, if the guys are interested.

We'd have to work out the payment details, but I'm sure that could be done. This would save the hassle of ordering some one-off extras of this older group buy, saving some dough, and the guys who wanted the mold would have one.

My group buy for this bullet will probably wait a little while (a couple months?), since there's probably not a lot of people clamoring for a bullet mold that essentially just had a run, but I promise it's on my want list. (I found this place after the group buy for Catshooter's bullet was closed.) Also, I'm about to launch my first group-buy for another caliber, and I'm too knew to jump in and have multiple buys going. :mrgreen:

[Catshooter]

sundog,

PM me your personal data and I'll give you the confirmation #.

Gentlemen,

Every mould I've ever shipped has been Delivery Confirmation, so it doesn't seem to help. I too have shipped out hundreds of packages that way. Just the way it goes, I guess.

Don't like it though.


Cat

[Springfield]

Delivery Confirmation doesn't guarantee delivery, but without it ya got nothin'. At least with it you may be able to see where it got lost. I had two packages recently where the recipient said it didn't arrive but the USPS said it did. Turns out the mailman stuck it in the wrong mailbox in the apartment complex, but because of the DC they found it. Every little bit helps.

[targetshootr]

All is not lost if it went Del Confirm. It took several phone calls but I did get my gun parts back. Just don't waste time with anyone except the higher-ups at the PO.

[alamogunr]

All is not lost if it went Del Confirm. It took several phone calls but I did get my gun parts back. Just don't waste time with anyone except the higher-ups at the PO.

If there is ever a Delivery Confirmation on my package, I will deal with the counter clerk. In this small town, the postmaster is usually someone who is "not from around here". I trust the ones who do a job and take care of local folks. I can't say our present postmaster is a political (as in USPS politics) appointee, but I know the lower downs as opposed to the higher ups.