Ruger #1, 30-40 Krag

[HEAD0001]

I think I am going to buy a Ruger #1 in 30-40 Krag tomorrow. I have been kicking this purchase around for awhile.

I want to make this a cast bullet only rifle for deer hunting.

I have been thinking seriously about a 200 grain cast bullet for this rifle?? What do you guys think about the 200 grain bullet for this rifle and cartridge?? I have about 16# od RL7 on the bench. Any good RL7 loads?? Should I go with a GC bullet??

Just interested in anything you guys might think about the 30-40 Krag?? Thanks, Tom.

[nicholst55]

Never seen a #1 in .30-40 Krag, although they did make a few #3s in that flavor. I would definitely choose a gas check boolit, although you can certainly get by with a PB boolit for lighter loads. I think a 200 grain boolit would be just about optimum for the Krag.

[excess650]

It would be difficult to argue against the 30-40K as a cast bullet cartridge. :holysheep My #1 Hornet may get rebarreled to the same.

[Dan Cash]

I am not fond of the #1 rifle but the cartridge is wonderful. Only major problem is that the brass is made from unobtainium.

[lotech]

I've been shooting a #3 in .30-40 for more than twenty years, primarily with cast bullets. Last week, trying out several loads, the Lyman #314299 (about 200 grains, wheelweights, sized .310") showed promise with 22 grains Reloder 7. Muzzle velocity = 1600, 1"round group. I intend to load more of these to confirm my only four-shot group at 100 yards was not just luck. As with most of the .30 caliber rifles I have had experience with, the Ruger shoots best with .310" bullets seated to barely engrave. Wheelweight bullets, even with a gas check, lead slightly, but a number of rounds can be fired before accuracy is affected. I have other loads/ bullets in my notes if you're interested.

[BulletGeek]

A few years ago I custom-designed a 210-grain flat-pointed bore-rider with gas check for .30-40. I got advice on the project from Charles Graf, and worked with Dan at Mountain Molds to get the dimensions right. I specifically designed it for a hunting bullet. I can hunt up some pics if you're interested. Dan probably still has the mold specs.

[longhorn]

Special run of .30-40 #1's is now listed as in stock at Cabela's. Look to be premium priced-Circassian walnut? Special high polish blue? Probably not in my budget, anyway--much fun as one would be.

[451whitworth]

i shoot a .311" 200gr. LBT LFN with GC over 29 grs. of RL-7. mv is 2150 fps out of my Browning 1895. in my testing RL-15 and IMR3031 were second and third respectively in group size @ the same velocity level.

[SharpsShooter]

I shoot a 311299 sized .311 over 26gr of 4198 and it is scary accurate.

SS

[HEAD0001]

Special run of .30-40 #1's is now listed as in stock at Cabela's. Look to be premium priced-Circassian walnut? Special high polish blue? Probably not in my budget, anyway--much fun as one would be.


I know. that is why I am discussing this. I am seriously thinking about one. Tom.

[9.3X62AL]

I think ANY 30-40 Krag rifle would make an excellent cast boolit hunting rifle. I "passed" on a Rising Sun Repro Win 95 so chambered a couple years ago, and regret that decision greatly.

[scb]

Special run of .30-40 #1's is now listed as in stock at Cabela's. Look to be premium priced-Circassian walnut? Special high polish blue? Probably not in my budget, anyway--much fun as one would be.

Have you got a link? Thanks.

[HEAD0001]

Here you go. Tom.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Ruger-Single-Shot-Rifles.cfm?cat_id=269

[HEAD0001]

None of the ones in the link are as nice as a couple I have seen a couple of guys buy. Tom.

[Lawnjockey]

I have an original mod 95 in 30-40 and I have never had a problem getting brass. I to have been looking at the Cabelas special run.

Jocko

[Dan Cash]

I have an original mod 95 in 30-40 and I have never had a problem getting brass. I to have been looking at the Cabelas special run.

Jocko

Where are you getting brass now? A couople months ago, Midway, Buff Arms, Weidner's, etal, had it and now they don"t. I need some.
Dan

[No_1]

Thanks a LOT. You have reignited my #3 and #1 fire. I thought I had worked my way out of them but now I see I have not. :groner:

R.

[9.3X62AL]

No. 1--

You are in the presence of the largest online group of firearms enablers ever assembled. Don't hold your breath waiting for one of us to caution against the purchase of a fine firearm. But I understand your point--it took months of therapy and lots of prescriptions to get over that 95 repro faux pas, and here the subject comes right up again.

Do ANY of you know how hard it is to find a pshrink that specializes in FSAD (Firearm Seperation Anxiety Disorder)?

[PatMarlin]

I get chills with the very mention of a Ruger #1.

[No_1]

Al,

With 3 #3's on hand now (Typecaster has the 4th) and 2 #1's, I know there is no cure. I was just thinking to myself who I can get to rebarrel a #1 to 8x57 and another to 9.3 x 62.

R.

[9.3X62AL]

Hmmmm.......didn't Ruger do a special run of #1s last year in 9.3 x 74R?

[SharpsShooter]

Hmmmm.......didn't Ruger do a special run of #1s last year in 9.3 x 74R?

Yes sir they did........

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=178097909


SS

[looseprojectile]

The #1 I have is in .375 H&H.
But I just traded for an 1898 Krag Yesterday. I won't be able to bring the rifle home till next Wednesday cause the FBI put me on delay. Always happens.
The rifle is the nicest and only full military Krag I have seen in fifteen or twenty years. Came with a 1905 bayonet without scabbard. It ought to turn out to be eighty percent condition after some mild cleaning. This gun is completely un mucked with.
Has a perfect shiny bore.
As usual I clicked on this thread cause I am looking for a load for this gun and will be trying some of the loads you guys have suggested. Just bought a pound of 2400 powder and I have had success with that in the 30 30 in the past. Not wanting to re invent the wheel. Thanks all.

Life is good

[looseprojectile]

OK, OK, Sorry about twisting your thread but bolt repeaters gotta eat too.

Life is good

[madsenshooter]

Just turn the magazine cutoff down and it's a single shot! I get superb accuracy out of my 92/96 rifle with 20gr of Blue Dot under the Eagan MX3-30-AR. That bullet weighs about 169gr and is going 2032fps. The boolit is similar to the RCBS 165gr silhouette. It'd take a bit more 2400 to get that speed. Just went through one of those delays myself, was ready to slay the paper dragon if I'd been denied, that was my one and only Garand the pawnshop had. The pic is 12 or 13 shots at 80 yards, highest one was called and lowest one (barely visible at bottom) is from a different group. Oh, I cheated as I have a 7x LER scope on my Krag, but...

[NoDakJak]

I have had two number 3 Rugers chambered to 30.40 Krag. The one that I kept is, along with my 250 Savage the most accurate cast boolit shooter that I own. For mid-range loads ENFORCER has been the powder to beat. I used AA9 data to work up these loads. AA9 is approximately 10% faster than ENFORCER. The most accurate load utilizes a RCBS, 150 RFN that is the most sorry new mold that I have ever purchaserd. The nose is almost 15 thousands out of round and the body is about 7 thousanths out. I absolutely will not shoot in any of my other thirty calibers but the 30.40 loves. Eight inches is about the best that it will group in my other thirty calibers but the 30.40 plunks them in at about 5/8" at fifty yards. I had planned to send it back to RCBS with a smoking hot letter but have now decided to keep the durned thing. Neil

[Lawnjockey]

You are right about the brass. I never had a problem finding it but after reading the reply to my post above I had a look and could not find an at my regular sources. I am glad I stocked up a while back.

Jocko, the all seeing lawn ornament

[skeettx]

Hello All

I have and shoot a #3 in Krag and really like it. The recoil is manageable and it is accurate.

My most favorite Ruger single shot is divided between a Lyman/Ruger #1 in 45-70 and a Ruger #1 in 38-55. All shoot extremely well after you play with them a bit.

Enjoy the day
Mike

[NHlever]

I know. that is why I am discussing this. I am seriously thinking about one. Tom.

I just noticed that the 30-30 is now available as a standard chambering in the No.1A...... don't see it on Ruger's site yet, but Lipsey's has it.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

As usual I clicked on this thread cause I am looking for a load for this gun and will be trying some of the loads you guys have suggested. Just bought a pound of 2400 powder and I have had success with that in the 30 30 in the past. Not wanting to re invent the wheel.
I use 16 gr. of 2400 with a 200 gr. cast GC boolit sized at .309 for my sporterized krag, the sites and stock are mucked up good..But has a tight .308 bore :) gives me a 5 shot group in a 3" to 5" circle at 100 yds with iron sites. that's about all the better I can shoot, the rifle might be capable of better.
Jon

[9.3X62AL]

I just noticed that the 30-30 is now available as a standard chambering in the No.1A...... don't see it on Ruger's site yet, but Lipsey's has it.

I need to leave this thread.......NOW.

[45r]

If I see a 30-30 ruger # 1 I'll be wanting it.Wonder how much they will go for. Seems like it would be great for cast and brass would be cheap.Lipseys says 1100$ plus retail.

[Multigunner]

I've given this sort of rebirth of the older cartridges some thought and it occured to me that it might be prudent to have any high strength action barreled for these older rounds given an improved chamber. Not so much to increase performance as to ensure that neck sized reloaded cartridges would not fit in the chamber of the older rifles.

I've heard of a numer of cases where ammo reloaded for stronger rifles ended up damaging older rifles that would have digested standard loads with no problems.

Near as I can figure even the 1895 Winchester is less prone to damage than the Krag, so ammo loaded with any of the stronger actions in mind might damage or cause undue wear on the aging Krag rifles.

[tdoor4570]

You can always make 30-40 brass out of 303 Brit:killingpc

[Dean D.]

Gotta love the old 30-40 Krag!

[Nick Adams]

Another [smilie=w: for the old 30-40 Krag.

I've posted here already about my new Winchester 1885 Trapper in this caliber, but I also have two other krags: one is an 1898 rifle; the other is an *all-correct* 1899 carbine. The carbine is my primary cast shooter.

This is a fun cartridge to reload for.

[outsidebear]

Have used the Speer Plinker 100 grain half-jacket and also the 110 grain jacketed softpoint ahead of 10.0 grs of Unique in a Ruger #3 .30-40 for some time now. It puts them lil' pills downrange starting around 1,550 fps. Makes for a dandy varmint and practice load.
With 180 gr factory loads it's comfortable to shoot as well.
Though I prefer seeking out and finding old factory 220 grain jacketed loads, this for in the timber use. Cast bullets of 190 gr work fine also.
Hard not to like the Ruger #3 carbines...

[nanuk]

if I could afford it, all my rifles would be Ruger 1's

[square butte]

If anyone is in New Hampshire, Rody's gun shop ( just a half mile down the road from the Ruger plant) can get you #1's in 30-30, 303 and 30-40 if any are available. They have special privledges with Ruger, as both Henry and Bill had long careers there. They got me a #1 in 30-30 at about $875, if I recall correctly.

[BruceB]

Suffer, brothers, suffer!

I have equal-sized "needs" for the #1 rifle, the .30-40 cartridge, and (due to extensive past experience)
the .303 British cartridge. Two of these itches were scratched this year with a new #1 in .303. while my old-but-great 1898 NRA Carbine continues to gratify my senses. I don't "NEED" a #1 in .30-40, but if one came along, I could be in trouble....

[NHlever]

You can always make 30-40 brass out of 303 Brit:killingpc

Or just buy a .303 British No.1 that is in current production, and a cataloged item.

[358wcf]

Just purchased a used Ruger #1 in 30-06. Never was too thrilled with the 06, but figured I really wanted to put that #1 in the shop and tinker. Thinking it might make a really nice Whelen after a visit to JES.
Going to try it in '06 for now to see how she does- a rebore is cheaper than a new barrel, but it's only money, right? Spend it now while it's still worth something, for I'm expecting some serious inflation is right around the corner. Come to think of it, I think the big inflation of 2011 has already started.
I need to stop this kind of thinking- my head hurts a bit-
Our current administration sure has helped the firearms and ammunition industry sales set new records!

358wcf [smilie=1:[smilie=1:[smilie=1:

[Ben]

358wcf :

You won't go wrong with JES, take a look at this :

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=63633